From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Nov 04 15:24:03 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:24:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KxVFj-00057j-0B for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:24:03 -0800 Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.153]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KxVFe-00057A-Lm for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:24:02 -0800 Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 4so1478299yxp.46 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:23:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=GvgqnignHyWk902FnFaDTJW0g5SWt3SwIehgeQEN7Qg=; b=TczCgfpr5Kf0kjDYl1exVOd7kGRJQKMVMlpQavL8sOEIgUFuLtUPGULgBs5aemP0jR QqTxIa7Ye20Iahlsz0IYKMHZgpXcxvLsKA0iEq30PY890MMtTieFoEN/ibFH+6HlbgGv rrfq0zkjXc/+mDELq8X6YY9tfct11RjOQCDZM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=WH2L8phgpVx3iI/CFTAHPCa0CXMo66EziCwXyiZ47lMDqYN7Psjz5r6Q8ipfch9WBP VBXsrY7V4BMtupCOnsfDVGwF+A6Ro26/ZxCdTJEY99j5a5mkppZ3e/Zzu7MQZTS8nd3q R67bnZgSTn19UWoHl3SXtoht5oT+nitIBYm2w= Received: by 10.151.39.2 with SMTP id r2mr422975ybj.201.1225841037214; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:23:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.199.20 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:23:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <737b61f30811041523o3574936fp27dea91b6a058c26@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:23:57 -0600 From: "Chris Capel" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: experimental cmavo in lojgloss. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <737b61f30811022128n9e8692evefaa820062d2a652@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560811031040t402eb7a9k31e0d61bf7ca3cea@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560811040350g2a04db8ewd2f34a8a43d96767@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14925 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 07:36, Daniel Brockman wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Jorge Llambías > wrote: >> But in that case it won't be >> of help for fixing something that is grammatically broken, like >> SI/SA/SU are meant to do. For example {mi kjama le zarji lo'ai kjama >> sa'ai klama le'ai} will parse as "{mi} followed by uninterpretable >> gibberish", so it will never get to a higher level for interpretation. > > It will when you are talking to a human. Right, but it would still be unparsable. The problem is that the text before it is ungrammatical, and so has to be ignored by the parser to get the whole thing to parse, which requires that the parser understand which words the lo'ai is nulling out. It can't be treated half-way and have things still parse. Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.