From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Nov 06 06:32:23 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 06 Nov 2008 06:32:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ky5uI-0008DX-LY for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 06:32:22 -0800 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.152]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ky5uF-0008D9-1D for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 06:32:22 -0800 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so614761fga.0 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 06:32:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=GuBzfrUJpv2FPE3oYp1o9hhtvdJiOSRylltAmAgMKeo=; b=A/P6IqjqtdOuDsEr5t9VQQNmMyoPKp4M293jys2wTgstyer4qrPwCC6EWoWv1VXt1i EH6mHEVCVokLPppwSNQFQma9IqUC/OUk34fy8NL++ryKwj0ldpu/myPfXSaquHj3m8pn R6Sbm8fylTRf4ePKiicNXgTPrUE07C2SiWbgI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=iHCl/vrUykCsrKK8GdogIUZFerj4Lk7GZ9gjTbaC2q2QclSaLQe0SWzPur2wsdYA66 KBWpvzzuqKTgHdLLyyngRIh8sUbVEpXLBUdN6uRz1ZTER1KZ9AYDRPi/p42f0OOmL3pQ 6oWF8p3ia1EhgsKvRk+YlkVDxRIr0TJxgoE2k= Received: by 10.181.201.18 with SMTP id d18mr686291bkq.125.1225981937501; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 06:32:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.1.5 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 06:32:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:32:17 +0100 From: "Daniel Brockman" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: experimental cmavo in lojgloss. In-Reply-To: <925d17560811060547x91443b1p7756e152f8093036@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_29423_14562208.1225981937473" References: <737b61f30811022128n9e8692evefaa820062d2a652@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560811040350g2a04db8ewd2f34a8a43d96767@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30811041523o3574936fp27dea91b6a058c26@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30811050534i514b3fddv197b2a07a47655f9@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30811051630t6adad5e0x54456e789d70c5b@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560811060547x91443b1p7756e152f8093036@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5d68c2fbfa36af61 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14935 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: daniel@brockman.se Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ------=_Part_29423_14562208.1225981937473 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > What Daniel proposes is much simpler, but I'm still not sure I see the > point of it. It won't do anything useful for humans, nor for a > computer parser. > Experienced Lojbanists are relatively unlikely to make blatant grammatical errors.They remain (depending on character, I suppose) prone to making all sorts of mistakes, grammatical or otherwise. As a result, the {le'ai} construct is often employed to make corrections even when there are no grammatical *errors* anywhere in sight. For example, the #jbosnu channel accepts only grammatically correct Lojban. Hence, you may not use {le'ai} constructions there. But that would be useful to correct mistakes, despite the fact that grammatical mistakes are not even allowed in the first place. -- Daniel Brockman daniel@brockman.se ------=_Part_29423_14562208.1225981937473 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
What Daniel proposes is much simpler, but I'm still not sure I see the
point of it. It won't do anything useful for humans, nor for a
computer parser.
 
Experienced Lojbanists are relatively unlikely to make blatant grammatical errors.
They remain (depending on character, I suppose) prone to making all sorts of mistakes,
grammatical or otherwise.  As a result, the {le'ai} construct is often employed to make
corrections even when there are no grammatical *errors* anywhere in sight.

For example, the #jbosnu channel accepts only grammatically correct Lojban.  Hence,
you may not use {le'ai} constructions there.  But that would be useful to correct mistakes,
despite the fact that grammatical mistakes are not even allowed in the first place.

--
Daniel Brockman
daniel@brockman.se


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