From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Nov 07 05:41:48 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KyRau-0005uv-6L for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:41:48 -0800 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.156]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KyRap-0005uO-JS for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:41:48 -0800 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so529128ywm.46 for ; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:41:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=UZUi4hTmU7DCpTV82Ioe+Gm3Zqp1A5fY54ZN7Aru5o0=; b=VYnpYl4YN82QIM4yuN9jhGWHgMJc/kDeMrHBgtXfz8omuGR/MJUYka7A+OF9eiU0tk zl/zq/mihUZsFElKIu9pWIM4VK4rAK+rEVUTI+vZAsOeIeT7MDD+6rUwltK3EEkhxH0L /AtFrBYpyohrkale4S5f4YAQyecHrOL5IWPTg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=P+BAtHlPzYCu7qr/b05kj5YKW5Rroo1VHn0PdNdwE6O+3HAUJZL45FP4tUknNlWpMf tZYdq1GYsVwft/2yF8nyxAi1NrEBfCyT9rYdypTaBCyBbZ0MCSqKMxKZTmQrpO6JF99z 85qO8m5rJJrjSqDl3ZcPJViU+UEzcMqcqo0Hk= Received: by 10.150.181.11 with SMTP id d11mr3542544ybf.209.1226065302201; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:41:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.199.20 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 05:41:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <737b61f30811070541l45110d3dsc5144714e926e32d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 07:41:42 -0600 From: "Chris Capel" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] la'e di'u (was: experimental cmavo in lojgloss.) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14945 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 06:11, Jorge Llambías wrote: > I have a similar gripe about "di'u" and "la'e di'u". Why is the most > common and useful "la'e di'u" a compound, and the less useful "di'u" a > single word? Normally we are much more likely to want to talk about > la'e di'u than about di'u. You have to admit, it's a lot cleaner conceptually. What would be the alternative? Keep di'u, and la'e, and add another cmavo (or several) for la'e di'u simply because of the frequency of usage? Given that the ambiguity of la'e could stand to be fixed, would we rather add variations on la'e, or single-cmavo variations on la'e di'u? Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.