From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Nov 07 16:40:34 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KybsP-00076u-QV for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:40:34 -0800 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.154]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KybsL-00076f-O6 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:40:33 -0800 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so654897ywm.46 for ; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:40:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=4z2sGPYJQiF6aoTqGLwB/wB9KpRmxbdT6aqAMWbzdsk=; b=ulptFrfBj78QLBnq8m9MYKaKw0D5Sv67n/nof89dKpAzg6IaGm6dhLmiJcpqfjvP9G kNwzVDQo/XW8lKMq6TJxOZF0RB+KQkwS0wYsXPtDYLdj+wP33k17PPu3Znsvhs19Kno7 QPA+nnxxqxy/SVzOnDJZejPo03N4MJRbT+Xoo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=IY42OwrrKlotpw41xXfDiVG+MZvz/Y6caUd2VIP1+XpvMfxh473obQBJXyI+pW99bH 7z+GibkPpbg8PqmTTPu89W7+rw6Rxej2mATnV3bBGHCoiBaQWSEi2uqh6ncgw9lEIzxE I2wbI79z1TFUd7SGq1lnUxqylRb4ypgxy5Xxw= Received: by 10.151.83.12 with SMTP id k12mr4525309ybl.173.1226104828703; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:40:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.199.20 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:40:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <737b61f30811071640q34744a4bq1ad74dfd865abcea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 18:40:28 -0600 From: "Chris Capel" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: la'e di'u (was: experimental cmavo in lojgloss.) In-Reply-To: <925d17560811070554m1b3a060ds5904bb7451ce7920@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <737b61f30811070541l45110d3dsc5144714e926e32d@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560811070554m1b3a060ds5904bb7451ce7920@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14955 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 07:54, Jorge Llambías wrote: > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Chris Capel wrote: >>Given that the >> ambiguity of la'e could stand to be fixed, would we rather add >> variations on la'e, or single-cmavo variations on la'e di'u? > > What ambiguity do you have in mind? I was referring to the wiki page on the topic that I can't now find. But I believe you know which one. Is it now gone? Anyway, the central point is that the "dereferencing" concept comes in many flavors, and the distinction between flavors is sometimes important, and la'e doesn't give you any power to distinguish. Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.