From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Nov 10 10:31:23 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:31:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KzbXn-0003pS-Kr for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:31:23 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.244]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KzbXj-0003pB-TP for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:31:23 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so2579712rvf.46 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:31:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=IlDt43vD1VaE6EOwYYwG5tik+/nJ2PLN2lYkYSxqoBI=; b=ezC8YgLm10y3757juK6hDdootUZh8/0zWdTfk4onZyKeTyv27QHz/J4PP2pmKUUZnf 8BrbQ0idYc0bxgssPdZpSUIja+W1nXPArHUTaeA/81GPi86Cy49Tw4Uy2dvlV1OVTkJP DVG9JYzRZR4CN1c3PphQtU+g1LFgfGDht/bfU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=v6plDp//7ChqUF1TLYfB3fuyjmPcd/wmP56j+89eOYNef0u6A5yDiOFqBVvyIcU+Cw pcXupNwfKaXRpwd1pwmYWOwxjjw9mt3R+YgHxeGl6+OqqxK8DYR+Jic10/masiqwsWX4 eGeehSNeLqngrlLOVQ18tcFBzf3dCLc9TNHx4= Received: by 10.141.27.16 with SMTP id e16mr3747327rvj.219.1226341878460; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:31:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.194.15 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:31:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560811101031s7a221232md1e11951f305ad41@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:31:18 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: le gusta co minde mutce In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930811100953o20a631a9xa27d8915b1030442@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0810260835h78654a7dr11b5b5c0957bce70@mail.gmail.com> <200811072307.26737.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4de8c3930811080122n7f91eea3v53fc4cce02d4d343@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560811081102l72b38fefp6a3adae34d562d71@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560811100828k50ff608ehc6a5ae96446807ef@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930811100917r15b2157bic39665d299d0f224@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560811100937t285e1c1bv5132c99c439f664d@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930811100953o20a631a9xa27d8915b1030442@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14980 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:53 PM, tijlan wrote: > > Being ideal doesn't necessarily mean being incapable of being an > antecedent. Right, as mukti and krinu show. >For clarity, let me specify these general "nu"s: > > lo zu'o mi klama le zarci cu jalge lo si'o mi ba te vecnu lo matne > > There is an idea of me buying butter to begin with, and then, as a > result, there is an action of me going to the market. OK. Now we would need an example where jalge works and krinu doesn't, to show that jalge is more general, or an example where krinu works and jalge doesn't, to show that krinu is more general. (Or both, to show that neither is more general, just different.) mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.