From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Nov 11 17:06:16 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:06:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L04BU-0004B7-J5 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:06:16 -0800 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L04BP-0004Az-Is for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:06:16 -0800 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 30so92588nfu.46 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:06:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=XVQos1fiWd/tps94rS9Pvl47fwBGNErN4zHN4Mn2GFM=; b=H/AxjQHblPZyZG1YC44bCfMQ1VfxAuSTIAvAiV+YTk/xRhyz/x+HkDWNg7tnD9gyPK UgsAA+lDzKsHxkFncaOU3uOCf4yfn18i9vAeiWs0Im38RxO3yvXQT6fsPx2GVswlopg2 kTQrRpEzJz6LXTDHAtBwJ+qaGxB+KPsMJr3KU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=MJbW+BJ9K7IFV1SZ+tkpjRZL6SLPknZSpeKXJ3ut3g6x2S7PDnLd8O2XSnYLqBW8q3 9qh1G/Nqxs7MTDRRgukDSTbYHA2bydgbLL17f/3X0SzpErfm8u+nIRy3DT07r3F8NMtG 2OE1iqZNcFja4OPDMEcJr5nalObb1X9mfC4vg= Received: by 10.103.131.18 with SMTP id i18mr4915756mun.74.1226451969656; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:06:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.103.173.4 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:06:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <16e4f29a0811111706t4e27477fu61c4e669360a1793@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:06:09 -0800 From: "Elias Friedman" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: le gusta co minde mutce In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930811110605u73597c74ye280491656add7e8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1251_6993701.1226451969664" References: <2f91285f0810260835h78654a7dr11b5b5c0957bce70@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560811081102l72b38fefp6a3adae34d562d71@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560811100828k50ff608ehc6a5ae96446807ef@mail.gmail.com> <16e4f29a0811101556rfea6759k672dd011cecc09d1@mail.gmail.com> <16e4f29a0811101558j1799d99bj7900b70c0b55c6a@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930811101800r501676d5id975aa96c932c19b@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930811101800y7ede0d46vc027081f0bd1179f@mail.gmail.com> <16e4f29a0811101950t59fa46cfof4fd83489ddcd8fd@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930811110605u73597c74ye280491656add7e8@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 15003 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: skierb27@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ------=_Part_1251_6993701.1226451969664 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline "To buy butter, I go to the market" and "I go to the market to buy butter" are fully synonymous. The order of "to buy butter" and "I go to the market" has no effect on the sentence's meaning. A motive is a reason for someone to do something. "To buy butter" is not a motive, as it is not a reason; it is only the "to do something". "I am willing to buy butter" is not an intention; it is a personal condition. An intention would be "I intend to buy butter". An intention cannot motivate an action, as an intention is not a reason for someone to do something; it is an intent to do something. "I will buy butter" is under no circumstances by itself a motive, as such an action is not a reason for someone to do something. ------=_Part_1251_6993701.1226451969664 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
"To buy butter, I go to the market" and "I go to the market to buy butter" are fully synonymous.  The order of "to buy butter" and "I go to the market" has no effect on the sentence's meaning.

A motive is a reason for someone to do something.  "To buy butter" is not a motive, as it is not a reason; it is only the "to do something".

"I am willing to buy butter" is not an intention; it is a personal condition.  An intention would be "I intend to buy butter".

An intention cannot motivate an action, as an intention is not a reason for someone to do something; it is an intent to do something.

"I will buy butter" is under no circumstances by itself a motive, as such an action is not a reason for someone to do something.
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