From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Nov 16 11:07:33 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:07:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L1my5-0006RH-Of for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:07:33 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.248]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L1my2-0006R4-RB for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:07:33 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so2344752rvf.46 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:07:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=dyoHx+UDuH8XZVeVw2uoFxHS1i5GJogs/dTQET98xwE=; b=No8DQsYQdT0FP49GLk2FZeSPWs8axOa+s3UYAZG7Z9aATNi6+hQmDQCtKywGNU7RM6 GvPyyHEB75YR80AWrd0P1IJ1vHoAv3SZAXGkDFSEmHsO9/2Fbf2IJ5dW6m0iWyLZ3KYN K3qzVOjg19UoMI6huripLDirnc4qqQ2IZ4N60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=O0pI+UI3TksCq4RTVMetyv6oiJCHlUZo5/GOibiw1q4Wrparm9sk9ytIt3hIHTzjam bIz+8a8YjoPfg9rHoeTYD40fnkTe9VkvUq3/9i7n1Dr6KJae3WvWhTQD0VIH0j7jUKrD 4yFyVuIlxXlGGWiW3LYYW/DoiROjRNAWKEs38= Received: by 10.141.71.14 with SMTP id y14mr1796725rvk.23.1226862449905; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:07:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.202.10 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:07:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <737b61f30811161107y2816cf2bhce8979277a0af34b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:07:29 -0600 From: "Chris Capel" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Annotated PEG grammar In-Reply-To: <925d17560811161048l4313ccf8pd3b091e9ddf633b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <737b61f30811151245n352f23dala9685c894d991550@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560811161048l4313ccf8pd3b091e9ddf633b@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 15035 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:48, Jorge Llambías wrote: > (1) As Stephen points ot, "!jek !joik" duplicates "!joik-jek". The only cruft-reducing change so far I've made is to get rid of stag, which was fairly egregious. If you want to keep a version somewhere that makes changes you're fairly sure are sound, I'll be glad to incorporate those into Lojgloss for further verification. And the guide--I suppose. It's not like I'm currently annotating the "official" version. > (2) Putting the restriction in front of "free*" makes no sense, > because that would mean that for example ".i je broda" is blocked, But considering your (3) would not be being matched in the first place. (What's the Lojban tense for "be being" or "have been being"?) > Conclusion: we must get rid of that "!jek !joik !joik-jek", or else > explain better what it is doing there. Sounds good. As for an explanation, I know that Robin tried to modify the old grammar only minimally in converting it to PEG. Were those in the old one, and not necessary any longer? Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.