From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Nov 17 03:34:13 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 17 Nov 2008 03:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L22Mv-0006Uk-AD for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 03:34:13 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.245]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L22Ms-0006Ud-Ar for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 03:34:13 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so2634554rvf.46 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 03:34:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=IWetLtarBWvqv7RXBe3OdXDV/vcWTWo5xVU77eHel1M=; b=J6RFOug6vBUF6bhshPPTDdSMv7fq8y+DN5jkYcQRpCFdzDCT92ZRZWECRQuC7yZC1h 3sgIddt/JPuCcQAgAVSQ98yZoePJVMAtAz8CAxavmv6GXPft0bJQDKhTvZ5kh90v4a++ ROaXV84zkMjBakZfXRy0T6ySe+L+pSbdod7sE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=C/IunX3bx4PFLoy9lHqL0/3uPwUn1KcH0XOI5FAYHYRfmP1LYAtvq+ngIVhx/oLyQE yFNwKHsIMWnnhf2K83yBX1wSk+l5d1j8ms1etMYVdK0opiqZien/YFg3RYXtcjfeo9TM d0Jly48vJAFLetrHeozHnfDC+LhE4DzzzSwsU= Received: by 10.141.198.9 with SMTP id a9mr2172830rvq.248.1226921649354; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 03:34:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.194.15 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 03:34:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560811170334q71b89c65oe6fa6b3aa6e699f9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:34:09 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: more grammar discussion In-Reply-To: <737b61f30811162220l2851d26ai745a0875c3377f9b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <737b61f30811162220l2851d26ai745a0875c3377f9b@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 15053 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:20 AM, Chris Capel wrote: >> sumti-tail <- (sumti-6 relatives?)? sumti-tail-1 / relatives sumti-tail-1 > > It looks like this rule is a bit redundant. It could be simplified to > > sumti-tail <- sumti-6? relatives? sumti-tail-1 > > without changing the meaning. I think the reason for having it separate is that in the presence of sumti-6, the relatives will apply to sumti-6, while in the absence of sumti-6, the relatives will apply to the sumti in sumti-tail-1. So really it should be something like: sumti-tail <- (modifier-sumti / relatives)? sumti-tail-1 modifier-sumti <- sumti-6 relatives? mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.