From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Nov 17 12:10:30 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:10:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L2AQY-0002TM-5j for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:10:30 -0800 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.190]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L2AQU-0002Sz-Ej for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:10:30 -0800 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 30so1238472nfu.46 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:10:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=J7d21Ffwli7ZuPTekbMLgFtk1XJEi/AAbH6wIVffTzw=; b=fB6EeLMDxYunYRUTvXtrL3TDAtHwWvqEnmK6ItLBlM2hhKiFKjTTzVh5sBdRDGo8Al 7jUacJQUa9JnQB7zWs+s5aeRWFh3KjpAYza7dCb8cCgO64C2fbD88Mf6W+HJbcoBtVAQ cWsfMIWeeSxjXate1chKNCBqVJ0zJw4yQclCA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=R4ygVLz5meQ4Gp1cUmxfiDtS/eJtQaG35JDjDMHv6sLf7dVlzYNcjbhlFihohmx2IY XOuXy/6rDI2OHyPtIkchXOzhKSHMvZNa71s0ELsIVcS6nl/kn458GKjsqP8DWY3gtKGQ /a8Lw7w48c5teetvxhd6UERFATuF4j9jdh80E= Received: by 10.210.65.17 with SMTP id n17mr1621247eba.34.1226952620968; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:10:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.128.20 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:10:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3ccac5f10811171210t5cfb071etb22aa0dca5040816@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:10:20 +0300 From: "Cyril Slobin" To: "Lojban List" Subject: [lojban] x3 of djuno and krici MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 51346920c82faeca X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 15054 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: cyril@slobin.pp.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list coi rodo I am confused: what is the intended usage of x3 in djuno, krici, and probably others? I don't see any difference in meaning in: mi djuno ledu'u da prami de ku da and mi djuno ledu'u da prami de ku de Of course I can say in English "I know about him that he loves her" and "I know about her that he loves her", but I can not explain how and why are they different. -- http://slobin.pp.ru/ `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, `it means just what I choose it to mean' To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.