From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Dec 07 12:45:14 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:45:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L9QV8-0007bb-Lk for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:45:14 -0800 Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.156]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L9QV5-0007aw-1U for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:45:14 -0800 Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 4so383027yxp.46 for ; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:45:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=5n+x1Ct/qgqcblYmwK904specKvpt9D6Tk1e6Kue2cY=; b=Wy88H1+ju5IdB4GAQ2MuwGLz7uJOHlZ6T30MgQrfWnR9JYBPRySRbbH0fzxm11FDUh OQJojdcIBKM4P8+Kz4a565oEILxAD9FZqv1WusSptmURfJrbK0HgQeiMdc5yf2hlNYgW RkAQJyy0bfRNZqqDhSxJ7rl1IxgAP6Mn6ILXA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=HCCsgJiQjwV5L8WSS7DFaEZ/wmCrn22ug18jcNLHbz9Tmmtk6NQos1aud4jPHtAdIc XdL9eWBYNnV0eAz+CwkYWozQe7XuH82rX+NY0PChsSYeZ4A/Hgbp4LEQVgl1tIL11Qrv PobJUg+D25KOF5LEQLUTeIEitlSRQeY8dyvTk= Received: by 10.151.148.2 with SMTP id a2mr6515963ybo.49.1228682708711; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:45:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.153.10 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 12:45:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <737b61f30812071245r429b8e7fm564a57271780b97@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 14:45:08 -0600 From: "Chris Capel" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: x2 of klani In-Reply-To: <200812071541.05344.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081207200948.GG13298@nvg.org> <200812071541.05344.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 15096 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 14:41, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Sunday 07 December 2008 15:09:48 Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: >> Furthermore, what type of sumti can go into the x2? Is it a number? >> (Jorge's example is the only one that fills in the x2 explicitly.) But if >> it is a number, how can it also be a spoon, as the place structure of >> {muclai} seems to imply? > > Looks like an error when compiling the list. I say it's a number, as in this > example: {loi tcatymuclai be li 1/3 be'o ke zingibero purmo}, from the > terjukpa page. I'd say its being a number is inconsistent with the definition in the gismu list. It seems to me what "quantifier" means is "that which is doing the quantifying/measuring", i.e. a measuring cup or spoon. By the definition, it seems like the first place should be for the number, and that's it's missing a place for what's being measured. I.e., the definition as given makes no sense. Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.