From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Dec 12 07:28:56 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:28:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LB9wm-00084L-9v for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:28:56 -0800 Received: from express.cec.wustl.edu ([128.252.21.16] helo=mail.cec.wustl.edu) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LB9wb-00081Z-TB for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:28:56 -0800 Received: from grid.cec.wustl.edu (grid.cec.wustl.edu [128.252.20.97]) by mail.cec.wustl.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BEE1E8094; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:28:36 -0600 (CST) Received: by grid.cec.wustl.edu (Postfix, from userid 29287) id AF3AB12806C; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:28:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grid.cec.wustl.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A62ED128061; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:28:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:28:35 -0600 (CST) From: "Adam D. Lopresto" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban with only cmavo: an Oulipian strategy In-Reply-To: <20081204221839.GD13298@nvg.org> Message-ID: References: <20081204221839.GD13298@nvg.org> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (LRH 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 15102 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: adam@pubcrawler.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list > Can you think of any expression that cannot in principle be expressed > without brivla or cmene? Or do you know any other forms of constrained > writing (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constrained_writing for examples) > that are only possible in Lojban? Yesterday, during a discussion of why {nu fanva da dunli} was a tanru, instead of a parsefail, we moved into a discussion of unusual elision of terminators. I think attempting to craft complicated Lojban without any terminators (or {cu}) would be an interesting exercise. I came up with mi lu mi nu finti zo'e troci ba cusku but I'm sure there are a lot of other interesting things that could be done in that area. -- Adam Lopresto http://cec.wustl.edu/~adam/ Has sensational journalism gone too far? Find out at eleven! --Jon Stewart To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.