From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Dec 22 15:39:11 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:39:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LEuMh-0003o4-R0 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:39:11 -0800 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LEuMU-0003ka-C2 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:39:11 -0800 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20081222233847.ZWEH18275.cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com@chausie> for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:38:47 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39202E60 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:38:46 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: About the negators Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:38:44 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <101615.13333.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <925d17560812220909l1add6ea1p4298e5b90116ae0f@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60812221054g74a68527md6eff452b258385b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <96f789a60812221054g74a68527md6eff452b258385b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812221838.44679.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 15140 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Monday 22 December 2008 13:54:25 Michael Turniansky wrote: >   Okay, I agree that ko'a broda naku is the same as ko'a broda (if you move > it leftwards, there is no funky qualifier or connective flipping to do > (I've never seen it at the end of a bridi, but there is no reason why it > couldn't be)). As I understood it, {naku} is interpreted, in a bridi with no bridi-tail connectors, as if the selbri were at the end; i.e. the selbri is always in the scope of {naku}. So {ko'a broda naku} is equivalent to {ko'a naku broda}. Pierre To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.