From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Dec 26 10:01:04 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:01:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LGGzg-0000yC-35 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:01:04 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.241]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LGGzb-0000x8-FU for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:01:03 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so4130560rvf.46 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:00:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=DJCuVqDB1y1qeu1hdKeIauKhijcXbFYfmruCedW6FuU=; b=yAIpRA5CEp0tAlgorANQ6+9b1uPFZA4FfRew8j9SxqFOlBv++0rHdsMkBWAQj1Fakz rPMcYxG/lUR7uCYfDx1ICTW9oHHJ/vVdxUXaAT8JHYnGTIU/1hZet0Yc/Sxtyxx0+ZhL R0uAfhU360DKzEkFdFAwWSbLuid3jlP0t77jY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=YD5ZdWmMZALIWsLH/rhsPGogmz+O70g4JCxDlcrCAa2gC3HWvQDmVCLNMunQHVD5Fi xkN2GBuB+tCQt+RyvsyO13vsa4VnnU8yi0KzlCC7UQls7LQjvWjpiS3X35cRLP9rZ4XW thJrEp4dZxJTld3whdrpAkdaRjTGEF8+OU6lM= Received: by 10.141.74.18 with SMTP id b18mr5364942rvl.48.1230314458470; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.194.15 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:00:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560812261000n76dfff37hf97897dcf7338d8c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 15:00:58 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: gleki xisri'i In-Reply-To: <3ccac5f10812260919p7f083cccma5e7f6cdefc8ee6b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081225043944.GA29775@sdf.lonestar.org> <20081225094052.GH10930@digitalkingdom.org> <20081225194149.GA28595@sdf.lonestar.org> <3ccac5f10812251622v5e4d1389mfc03381c6d041f5f@mail.gmail.com> <3ccac5f10812251650l45c44633ufbdbd196ec2a8771@mail.gmail.com> <20081226032911.GM10930@digitalkingdom.org> <3ccac5f10812252018h34447cabm8bbb7f819c6ac1af@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560812260642h57bfe202i72eb4affef82ac93@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30812260815u54db635bn757d17a6739bbaec@mail.gmail.com> <3ccac5f10812260919p7f083cccma5e7f6cdefc8ee6b@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 15168 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Cyril Slobin wrote: > > I believe that this one specific example *can* be correctly parsed by > CFG. I'll try to write such CFG for you tonight. The problem here is > that correct CFG is much longer than "traditional" one. And, even if > the similar transformation for the whole Lojban grammar is possible, > the result will be far too huge to be used in practice. I agree. Indeed I don't see any reason for a complete CFG not to be possible, but it will almost certainly require more than 2000 lines. Orders of magnitude more, probably, as there are dozens of terminators and handling each one will expand the grammar by some factor of, I suspect, around 2. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.