From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Feb 14 20:36:16 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:36:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LYYjo-0004DM-1s for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:36:16 -0800 Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.7] helo=imo-m26.mail.aol.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LYYji-0004Cn-BB for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:36:15 -0800 Received: from Thirderivative@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id d.c4b.48b11200 (37120) for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:35:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.154]) by cia-ma01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA016-5c3f49979bac117; Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:36:02 -0500 Received: from WEBMAIL-MA08 (webmail-ma08.webmail.aol.com [64.12.88.72]) by smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDB035-5c3f49979bac117; Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:35:56 -0500 References: <646661980902140541n2a9188a7j699efc8af12da458@mail.gmail.com> <8CB5CD5AE5CF45B-7D8-2829@WEBMAIL-MZ03.sysops.aol.com> <537d06d00902141104p73e5a03dwfb3300c5d0a2659a@mail.gmail.com> <20090214193857.GA17092@sdf.lonestar.org> To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: New LCS podcast/blog; contributors wanted Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:35:57 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 76.8.216.14 In-Reply-To: <20090214193857.GA17092@sdf.lonestar.org> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: thirderivative@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB5D3E078BCAB8_1318_2B5F_WEBMAIL-MA08.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41421-STANDARD Received: from 76.8.216.14 by WEBMAIL-MA08.sysops.aol.com (64.12.88.72) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:35:57 -0500 Message-Id: <8CB5D3E07870600-1318-158D@WEBMAIL-MA08.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 1.8 X-Spam-Score-Int: 18 X-Spam-Bar: + X-archive-position: 15313 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: thirderivative@aol.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ----------MB_8CB5D3E078BCAB8_1318_2B5F_WEBMAIL-MA08.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" i only mentioned it because in the first episode it sounded like you said s= omething like the two english words "lodge ban" =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Minimiscience To: lojban-list@lojban.org Sent: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:38 pm Subject: [lojban] Re: New LCS podcast/blog; contributors wanted de'i li 14 pi'e 02 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Philip Newton .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatr= a. > Since Lojban has a six-vowel system, I would have thought that there > would be a bit of latitude or room for allophonic variation in the > vowels -- for example, to pronounce /o/ as [o] or [O], /a/ as [a] or > [A], etc. .skamyxatra The CLL explicitly states (in section 3.2) that 'a' can be pronounced as eit= her [a] or [=C9=91] and that 'o' can be pronounced as [o] or [=C9=94]. However,= the first phoneme in each pair is the preferred pronunciation. mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. --=20 na'e morsi fa lo kakne be lonu ze'e cando .ije sekai loka cizra cedra kei lo si'o morsi ji'a ka'e mrobi'o To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. =20 ----------MB_8CB5D3E078BCAB8_1318_2B5F_WEBMAIL-MA08.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
i only mentioned it becaus= e in the first episode it sounded like you said something like the two engli= sh words "lodge ban"


-----Original Message-----
From: Minimiscience <minimiscience@gmail.com>
To: lojban-list@lojban.org
Sent: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:38 pm
Subject: [lojban] Re: New LCS podcast/blog; contributors wanted

de'i li 14 pi'e 02 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Phi=
lip Newton .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra.

> Since Lojban has a six-vowel system, I would have thought that there
> would be a bit of latitude or room for allophonic variation in the

> vowels -- for example, to pronounce /o/ as [o] or [O], /a/ as [a] or
> [A], etc.

.skamyxatra



The CLL explicitly states (in section 3.2) that 'a' can be pronounced as eit=
her

[a] or [=C9=91] and that 'o' can be pronounced as [o] or [=C9=94].  However,=
 the first

phoneme in each pair is the preferred pronunciation.



mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun.



-- 

na'e morsi fa lo kakne be lonu ze'e cando .ije sekai loka cizra cedra kei
lo si'o morsi ji'a ka'e mrobi'o





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