From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Mar 14 16:52:10 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LideE-0008F9-G6 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:52:10 -0700 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.146]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lide9-0008EV-1F for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:52:10 -0700 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 14so1433244qwa.58 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:52:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=dEZGdlOX+xXqAvHraquycqIJHr4VDu2W5e2cX3R7TAg=; b=PKh46nW3nZN9yAfYLTeGEEF04FGoqYtZXdLopRvOdIf+I4king7REzeg0fevn/JuMi JykFlmb9zUXcx6fik7DTDbY5ugIMNt2I6wiclfqSpQ94KIz4kyHtvHqxhaJcaGue0U+Q 0B2lDGLsvbra6qwv7auFEE3s7SxCkH52pl0rg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=EH8s3OkQ6VtU7CLoQhlsCdW8OvQH9Hdl9OfhfkB1IUHu8t7qXpkzvC8bKP7UJ4vNQz 2LozC0BuCWCtzXHoa047StPbog+ZckvSjLn0U+K9k6mMZ9710wbTw9W9778eiKGdZx0J kjsYMdQeg4i6ttUbqbSIBxtnfeVHXFulo7YVk= Received: by 10.224.3.16 with SMTP id 16mr3870957qal.361.1237074724010; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.65? (res3307702.rh.rit.edu [129.21.114.84]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm3712712yxs.16.2009.03.14.16.52.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <090C145A-ABCA-447D-A14D-B5F07372BA9A@gmail.com> From: Minimiscience To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: [lojban] Re: Newbie questions Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:51:59 -0400 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 15366 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Mar 14, 2009, at 7:34 PM, robert wrote: > I'm a total n00b to Lojban, so I apologize in advance for any > questions inappropriate to this forum. The reason I'm posting here > instead of the "Beginners Mailing List" is that the link to that > list appears to be broken in the wiki (see the link on this page: [http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Lojbanic+Forums&bl=y > ]). Just so you know, the "forum" on the tiki is just a web interface to the mailing lists, which you can subscribe to properly at . > Q1: Did I use gugde, tcadu, and nenri correctly? Yes, though I don't think "{la frans. nenri la .iurop.}" is technically correct. "{nenri}" means total containment, and I'm pretty sure France controls some islands in the Pacific and possibly elsewhere as well (I don't know about Italy, though). "{se vasru}" can be used instead for containment that's not necessary total. > Q2: Are there universally accepted city, country, and other > political grouping names? Universally accepted in the Lojban community or throughout the world? In Lojban, countries that have cultural {gismu} assigned can have {lujvo} for names; for example, France can be referred to as "{la fasygug.}" or "{la fasygu'e}" ("French country"). > Q3: Does Lojban really just run all the sentences together? No. Sentences are supposed to be separated with "{.i}" (or "{ni'o}" for paragraphs). > Q3a: When parsing .... la paris. tcadu. la romas. tcadu. .... is > backtracking expected upon hitting the second "tcadu" so that "la > paris. tcadu. la romas." is not interpreted as "Paris is a city of > metropolitan area Rome"? See the answer to the previous question. mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. -- () me la .asycy'i'ic. dasri nungazdau fi loi me la xytymylyl. samxa'a /\ di'o la'o jy. www.asciiribbon.org .jy. fi loi posysivni datnytai minxa'a To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.