From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Apr 13 21:30:24 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LtaHv-0001Zc-Ud for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:30:23 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.247]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LtaHq-0001Yz-Ri for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:30:23 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so2337290and.1 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:30:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=UWxsFnQ8JNC33xSiCMPz62WbosughPswqm+6JtAeYkc=; b=xHmEft1MIyNETNFqrSQy1KajhGQUk5A4VsBbgrrbNl0Mc/JU9z7lX4DZpPkeVjqzAD N3XFwormA4JzkVkjSAfpqlCkBxeHNmDZQynAnBArtuVhuIcqDPnE0Hml2aXJVQbYWUDj CupQgHGV2XN4ybzdFzKiWU0NmtvvEcbpIpVEY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=wmnqye/Z6YR5Pq3+jytHBNuJyLWfQ8PCEstyYS0CSsEM7Vb0glWkLb5LdudGUaWOuK DafmQrdjh8uGonqH4l12poDIEWBtSSMisEJTUNz6JldV2CmXAtaqT44lvTO5IzAdT5En EenAjuEvR4iT9SkNloR/gAvvtuFRhngvfQnNc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.36.75 with SMTP id s11mr1189964ibd.12.1239683417141; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:30:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090410201056.GY27979@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20090410073616.GS27979@digitalkingdom.org> <20090410201056.GY27979@digitalkingdom.org> From: Danny Piccirillo Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:29:57 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: Wiki Copyleft? To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0022152d6d99b674ea04677c49b0 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I prefer share-alike, but i am OK without. Perhaps it could be voted on somehow? Adding something like "by contributing, you agree to CC-BY(-SA)" would be great, can we do that? That would effectively make any changes and new content copylefted which would be cool, but i'm not sure if that's kosher. [...] Content analysis details: (-2.6 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-archive-position: 15461 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: danny.piccirillo@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --0022152d6d99b674ea04677c49b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I prefer share-alike, but i am OK without. Perhaps it could be voted on somehow? Adding something like "by contributing, you agree to CC-BY(-SA)" would be great, can we do that? That would effectively make any changes and new content copylefted which would be cool, but i'm not sure if that's kosher. On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 16:10, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > >From all of the dozens of different authors, many of whom aren't > around anymore? > > Good luck with that. > > For myself, I don't much like share-alike licenses, and would > probably oppose any serious movement in that direction. > > In practice, I treat the content as public domain. > > We could put up a "by contributing, you agree to X" notice, the > problem is all the extant content. > > -Robin > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:46:37AM -0400, Danny Piccirillo wrote: > > Well it just seems appropriate. I'm all about the free culture movement > and > > free content. =] > > > > Could we get permission for the non-copyleft content to be copylefted? > > > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 03:36, Robin Lee Powell < > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org > > > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 10:05:24AM -0400, Danny Piccirillo wrote: > > > > Does the wiki use the GNU FDL or Crative Commons BY-SA? If not, > > > > why not? And If so, it should be made more clear > > > > > > It's never come up. Much of the content actually predates the > > > current wiki and was hosted by a different person on a different > > > machine, and there was no license then, so even if we said their was > > > one now, most of the content wouldn't be under it. > > > > > > What was it you were planning on doing that required this? > > > > > > -Robin > > > > > > -- > > > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > > > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something > > > other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre > > > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/< > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/%7Erlpowell/>*** > > > http://www.lojban.org/ > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or > if > > > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > > > > > > > -- > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something > other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > --0022152d6d99b674ea04677c49b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I prefer share-alike, but i am OK without. Perhaps it could be voted on som= ehow?=A0

Adding something like "by contributing, you agree to C= C-BY(-SA)" would be great, can we do that? That would effectively make= any changes and new content copylefted which would be cool, but i'm no= t sure if that's kosher.=A0

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 16:10, Robin Lee Pow= ell <rl= powell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
>From all of the dozens of different authors, many of whom aren't around anymore?

Good luck with that.

For myself, I don't much like share-alike licenses, and would
probably oppose any serious movement in that direction.

In practice, I treat the content as public domain.

We could put up a "by contributing, you agree to X" notice, the problem is all the extant content.

-Robin

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:46:37AM -0400, Danny Piccirillo wrote:
> Well it just seems appropriate. I'm all about the free culture mov= ement and
> free content. =3D]
>
> Could we get permission for the non-copyleft content to be copylefted?=
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 03:36, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org
> > wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 10:05:24AM -0400, Danny Piccirillo wrote:=
> > > Does the wiki use the GNU FDL or Crative Commons BY-SA? If n= ot,
> > > why not? And If so, it should be made more clear
> >
> > It's never come up. =A0Much of the content actually predates = the
> > current wiki and was hosted by a different person on a different<= br> > > machine, and there was no license then, so even if we said their = was
> > one now, most of the content wouldn't be under it.
> >
> > What was it you were planning on doing that required this?
> >
> > -Robin
> >
> > --
> > They say: =A0"The first AIs will be built by the military as= weapons."
> > And I'm thinking: =A0"Does it even occur to you to try f= or something
> > other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre
> > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/<http://www.digita= lkingdom.org/%7Erlpowell/>***
> > http://www.lojban.org/
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if
> > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.
> >
> >

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And I'm thinking: =A0"Does it even occur to you to try for somethi= ng
other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre
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