From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Apr 19 22:34:00 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lvm8m-0001dz-CO for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:34:00 -0700 Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.153]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lvm8j-0001dk-Gv for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:34:00 -0700 Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 36so502417yxh.46 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:33:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=GjhCLnDLuHE8LAd9WNtrtb3nIyr7xGPJWzD5vsKi2g8=; b=jxdXJxHmA7AP1vS6UUy68INrGUVY42o6rbigxoA4G83XJRQFQNYRTC6AFCom6e3VC8 QQXFyFgaJ8KoM3DIXcN+7nd3nRQEmI/dyEgD14zE2fhf4rYxpVcDEEtW6DFC+qC7UASg Tu5PZqzDms5WOU/pzmrsxujTJObpekM18p08g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=I5waelHtbJrLK3a12wS46BauvqUJOEMwZ/ZL9n7rUNgNia4HaFU6zergXdnbwzHzUL uisU08ktoTR8ynUT2CzSN2jKpWgimzHwa8iweploNeU0Q+JltDLbKS694LX573qzuKiN InbieR4GZKmVYjEi/xDRWeI4gAvJtdk7I5+gA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.20.65 with SMTP id e1mr3241244ibb.1.1240205636106; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:33:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Danny Piccirillo Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 01:33:36 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Gender neutrality? To: lojban-list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325574746637c5f0467f5e007 X-archive-position: 15473 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: danny.piccirillo@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --000325574746637c5f0467f5e007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Still a n00b, so i'm just looking for some clarification on this. One of the many many reasons lojban appeals to me, is that it is supposed to be gender neutral, but one thing still bothers me. If there are terms for boy, man, girl, and woman, there are surely terms for one who identifies as masculine or feminine, or androgynous, genderqueer, etc and those are the terms i think should be preferred in common conversation when talking about someone who has a gender identity (all humans). Is this do-able~ an idea the can be spread to all lojbanists? --000325574746637c5f0467f5e007 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Still a n00b, so i'm just looking for some clarification on this. One o= f the many many reasons lojban appeals to me, is that it is supposed to be = gender neutral, but one thing still bothers me. If there are terms for boy,= man, girl, and woman, there are surely terms for one who identifies as mas= culine or=A0feminine, or=A0androgynous, genderqueer, etc and those are the = terms i think should be preferred in common conversation when talking about= someone who has a gender identity (all humans). Is this do-able~ an idea t= he can be spread to all lojbanists?=A0 --000325574746637c5f0467f5e007-- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.