From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Apr 29 10:20:01 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LzDRw-0005HI-WA for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:20:01 -0700 Received: from mail-qy0-f176.google.com ([209.85.221.176]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LzDRt-0005FO-Gu for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:20:00 -0700 Received: by qyk6 with SMTP id 6so3715063qyk.28 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:19:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=am3Hj8L2eogo+d5KhdDi1lM/xetabfn391IEdkxP1TQ=; b=m/0Aguiz3mNAhOJp/DFXkJr3V/2dzgO2bRHTjyizJQIekQ5O2VL4bKR8Edo6LQ0Jf/ HA/rEGfgCN3MDMsj0MX6k46ojQmG5U9gzLp7MN7y1mr+6HLLeAqLxxnVu8EU50gVphDh t8TGRLWEnLobKD+B6YDVUnuY+8A+Sr6LFWtKc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ErxJkOvj3MfX1yWaAL5EmMx3tQfDNX+pauKxqkpKuYNaqy0lOaqeMrDK01H6fjosML YPTOqCDT4+AJiMyKjbr8YkgfGhCzRNUjSyZmYy0r1+CVbCPf1oq2nBOLdWJ6I8RxwrlI zasJOvzJHs6hoIX0v+jj143lb09pC2etAt+Wo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.87.4 with SMTP id u4mr1134118vcl.28.1241025589610; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:19:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:19:49 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300904291019r1e7e6103m9e34193f50a306bb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Logical Naming Conventions From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6475f1a6d0adb0468b4c9ac X-archive-position: 15530 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --0016e6475f1a6d0adb0468b4c9ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Morpheme, the naming conventions on Gaia from the Foundation series is mentioned as an aside in the books. I don't think that people's names consisted of literal words like "mayorhumanitariangreatorator" but rather like "daniel" has meaning associated with it. Or in lojban terms, maybe one would use the rafsi of different words that they associate with to make one enormous lujvo like construct (but in cmene form). So from my earlier example, skamilojbozoigo becomes skajbozoigos, or skaj in day to day use. I would guess most names would be much longer as most people don't really identify with only a few interests. Kind of reminds me of geek code. - Luke Bergen On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:00 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 4/29/2009 12:52:15 Eastern Daylight Time, > danny.piccirillo@gmail.com writes: > > > Well, my name is Danny, and that to me has no meaning. Does this qualify as > a "nonsense" name? I'm just asking to make sure we're talking about the same > thing. > > > > I would say it's not a nonsense name. While "Danny" itself may have no > meaning, at least to you, it is part of a large network of associations. > It's the usual nickname for "Daniel", which has a long and Biblical > history. It's not a made-up name, like the one I suggested. > > stevo --0016e6475f1a6d0adb0468b4c9ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Morpheme, the naming conventions on Gaia from the Foundation series is ment= ioned as an aside in the books.=A0 I don't think that people's name= s consisted of literal words like "mayorhumanitariangreatorator" = but rather like "daniel" has meaning associated with it.

Or in lojban terms, maybe one would use the rafsi of different words th= at they associate with to make one enormous lujvo like construct (but in cm= ene form).=A0 So from my earlier example, skamilojbozoigo becomes skajbozoi= gos, or skaj in day to day use.=A0 I would guess most names would be much l= onger as most people don't really identify with only a few interests.
Kind of reminds me of geek code.

- Luke Bergen

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:00 PM, <MorphemeAdd= ict@wmconnect.com> wrote:
In a mess= age dated 4/29/2009 12:52:15 Eastern Daylight Time, danny.piccirillo@gmail.com wri= tes:


Well, my name i= s Danny, and that to me has no meaning. Does this qualify as a "nonsen= se" name? I'm just asking to make sure we're talking about the= same thing.


I would say it's not a nonsense name. =A0While "Danny" it= self may have no meaning, at least to you, it is part of a large network of= associations. =A0It's the usual nickname for "Daniel", which= has a long and Biblical history. =A0It's not a made-up name, like the = one I suggested.

stevo

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