From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Apr 30 10:30:21 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lza5V-0000K9-7j for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:30:21 -0700 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.251]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lza5Q-0000Jm-QR for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:30:21 -0700 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so1473578rvf.46 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:30:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=W0FRBbhw08VNcYf+ZDIYVBgwjIlMXDGL1mBanwJVGE4=; b=Bs1sxicpVdhkbrj0nAMk0wU9+qEX8fWAgsUh1orUBzhDDLTxiwLqvKtAr6qtiRC994 MFP+vJ4/1qeKKhzY6vzXR3d714asByAE76KrHtNLYIAqQaTumFSmmPDeaHJKSN3UITVy EAfYHGZlhsC3bLWB9UX0hbk4pOKOkBQT1iNaQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=U55ofXeY0t1rncJ+vnxQQaxGzwCiFMhlI/qbEhrSu2bT6AIXJTTGHCh9DBKSDGSVVM eIZQhRAIW+I0wPPPWrer2mJ+hh5TuHJztJGb/GbGbfDXs1vXNta65jwDxajRi/iDJisn g09+bbtM81rTLX3yvTSAtv4X/W3CVLuNXUrOk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.106.13 with SMTP id e13mr1604736wac.128.1241112615756; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:30:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] la .problemas. From: purpleposeidon To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163645730a96a4630468c90c1a X-archive-position: 15542 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: purpleposeidon@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --00163645730a96a4630468c90c1a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit coi rodo. Instead of pausing before and after names and sounding weird, why don't we have a mental list of names. When someone uses a cmavo that would indicate that a name follows, you'll try to match as many syllables as possible to a name on the list. An example, using numbers as mystery syllables: mi tavla la 1234567890 And we just so happen to have, on our list of names 12345 567 986798 We know that the person's name is '12345', and that 67890 must be something else to be parsed. So, if ta gerku has the unfortunate name "mamtagletu", and you refer to this dog by name and keep talking, two things might happen. I can think (in Lojban, of course) "Oh, yes, it's that dog with the funny name," or I can ask you "Wait, I don't know any la mamtablahblahblahrestofutterance, what are you talking about?" What if you know two people, named '1' and '12', where '2' is both valid lojban, and part of the second prenu's name? Like a regular expression, try to match names as greedily as possible. What if the speaker knows a '1', but not a '12', and says "la 1 2"? I suppose the only way to deal with this is to use '.' at the end. So The Dot Side shall be unneeded, except when you're introducing someone to a new name. It is, of course, a ridicilous idea, no dout full of holes that a respondant could make. cu'omi'e .djeims. --00163645730a96a4630468c90c1a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable coi rodo.

Instead of pausing before and after names and sounding wei= rd, why don't we have a mental list of names. When someone uses a cmavo= that would indicate that a name follows, you'll try to match as many s= yllables as possible to a name on the list. An example, using numbers as my= stery syllables:
mi tavla la 1234567890

And we just so happen to have, on our list of= names
12345
567
986798
We know that the person's name is &= #39;12345', and that 67890 must be something else to be parsed. So, if = ta gerku has the unfortunate name "mamtagletu", and you refer to = this dog by name and keep talking, two things might happen. I can think (in= Lojban, of course) "Oh, yes, it's that dog with the funny name,&q= uot; or I can ask you "Wait, I don't know any la mamtablahblahblah= restofutterance, what are you talking about?"

What if you know two people, named '1' and '12', where = '2' is both valid lojban, and part of the second prenu's name? = Like a regular expression, try to match names as greedily as possible.

What if the speaker knows a '1', but not a '12', and sa= ys "la 1 2"? I suppose the only way to deal with this is to use &= #39;.' at the end.

So The Dot Side shall be unneeded, except whe= n you're introducing someone to a new name.




It is, of course, a ridicilous idea, no dout full of holes = that a respondant could make.

cu'omi'e .djeims.
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