From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri May 08 11:46:05 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 08 May 2009 11:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M2V5B-0008QC-0S for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 08 May 2009 11:46:05 -0700 Received: from ol.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.20] helo=sdf.lonestar.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M2V55-0008Pb-Ty for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 08 May 2009 11:46:04 -0700 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@iceland.freeshell.org [192.94.73.5]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n48IjsmV012793 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 18:45:54 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.12.8/Submit) id n48Ijr5l014058 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 8 May 2009 18:45:53 GMT Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 18:45:53 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: doi snan Message-ID: <20090508184553.GA12701@sdf.lonestar.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-archive-position: 15567 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list de'i li 08 pi'e 05 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > > doi snan lo cinri be do poi do pu jarco bu'u la'o zoi Lojban IRC zoi > > zo'u mi puza fanza la'e la'o gy Heart Sutra gy ( uik > > I've noticed this kind of zoi usage before, with zoi as delimiter, but is > it right? > I understood zoi to indicate that a non-Lojban phrase follows, but that the > word/phrase itself is delimited by a syllable not in the phrase, such as gy. .skamyxatra I think the key thing to note here is that "{la'o}" is also a member of {selma'o} ZOI. "{la'o zoi Lojban IRC zoi}" is grammatically equivalent to "{zoi zoi Lojban IRC zoi}"; the only difference is that a quote with "{zoi}" refers to the text itself, while "{la'o}" refers to the thing referenced or named by the text. mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. -- ko na xalni To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.