From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon May 18 13:11:40 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 18 May 2009 13:11:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M69BU-0006LD-DL for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 18 May 2009 13:11:40 -0700 Received: from mail-qy0-f116.google.com ([209.85.221.116]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M69BR-0006JP-D2 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 18 May 2009 13:11:40 -0700 Received: by qyk14 with SMTP id 14so7674262qyk.28 for ; Mon, 18 May 2009 13:11:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=rzUOmiXpwamya4AYfqYGfsLnQP+9+usoOB+26m/tA8o=; b=SocOqDVp+U+F84ZCvcICzMtVPSq206pL6caXG+24YiVC+qYn04JjnFB0olNGkvRBWs JkvsZ1FkoADGn+pWzY+Wbo+mPwUWPSuuSuVzEciJe+GfEPDCcpmVb/QXFKLAaJXHd7JN 83DZ9H+ofZJWtnk1qv5JfpCdbd8rClHDlC+CI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fV8vidLkyz4q5mrc5eb2TxFqiPrfcQEb5vBhT23sAuFvWbNeQwtnHRAcDgsP32eqhn 8r0D1OYserak6+E6u7yr9HQxFzzkJiCB0NdxAiKyKAV9X/r+6ngOG5M8L1YxzkBQXRmd ouVkU+086hNeDplWcvP67+BUygx0or8uM09Ek= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.77.17 with SMTP id e17mr7064247vck.47.1242677490421; Mon, 18 May 2009 13:11:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 16:11:30 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300905181311h3a3ac22vb84791f1c2c15306@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] patfu? From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64eabf463691b046a3566ce X-archive-position: 15588 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --0016e64eabf463691b046a3566ce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So I was thinking about this earlier. When babies are first learning to talk they don't say "father" as their first word. It's usually some kind of "dada" sound. Also, patfu sounds so formal. For when babies are first learning to talk how acceptable would things like referring to one's paternal gardian as "pa'u" be? Would this be the kind of thing where getting excited over "pa'u" is understandable but the next step would be to encourage them to say "patfu"? Also, "patfu" sounds kind of ugly, would it be common/understandable to have a child call their parent "la paf" or "la pa'us" as similar to what "pop" is in english? - Luke Bergen --0016e64eabf463691b046a3566ce Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So I was thinking about this earlier.=A0 When babies are first learning to = talk they don't say "father" as their first word.=A0 It's= usually some kind of "dada" sound.=A0 Also, patfu sounds so form= al.=A0 For when babies are first learning to talk how acceptable would thin= gs like referring to one's paternal gardian as "pa'u" be?= =A0

Would this be the kind of thing where getting excited over "pa'= ;u" is understandable but the next step would be to encourage them to = say "patfu"?=A0 Also, "patfu" sounds kind of ugly, woul= d it be common/understandable to have a child call their parent "la pa= f" or "la pa'us" as similar to what "pop" is i= n english?



- Luke Bergen
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