From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat May 30 11:57:20 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 30 May 2009 11:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MATk8-0004py-1q for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 30 May 2009 11:57:20 -0700 Received: from mail-qy0-f110.google.com ([209.85.221.110]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MATk3-0004oy-Sw for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 30 May 2009 11:57:19 -0700 Received: by qyk8 with SMTP id 8so53713qyk.28 for ; Sat, 30 May 2009 11:57:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=3cky/3qKPpesBlQ4l7a3MLzOWZ9mF76g+cT0jcmqE7s=; b=XiGKO6hyaZJf08WwnXiBaoNWJHVcOOx2CDJYlLuY+/vsfycyOW+z+7wEI63lraJx/r cbK9Sg+RW1P+Oq9nzFf1t+BLo63G3vRHsGQ/y/jcafwkDmg3VtghI/WDdFq1oaO1NsnT yegzIdJFyvkPPt72zqqZgHwOFY7uW0OrB4bnc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=aEJ9jPczjWULVHyagIVuveCZ3Kseks7gXrG14fWGqFuPGyK7tP0zcIloF8fvptbd55 1pjihhmrzK0n5TaUN3bXNfouDiJr90g95uuy3a2I4dKbuWbBucMBGqv1H6BQrTN71cWe 9T94paM+XmVkwZ67+uxXrl9xjKXwKOk4rHxLA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.95.194 with SMTP id e2mr3190525vcn.60.1243709829668; Sat, 30 May 2009 11:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 14:57:09 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300905301157g37c96bfbq96b3142d1761f081@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] sel ter vel xel From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e646477e99e147046b25c2fe X-archive-position: 15623 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --0016e646477e99e147046b25c2fe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know I've read something about a "great rafsi relocation" and that not wanting to cause another one of these is the main reason behind not changing "tel" for stela (lock) to something else is out of the question. But that was a while ago. Is it still completely out of the question to change just one little rafsi so we can have 100% consistency instead of 99.9% consistency? I just picture teaching my kids lojban and them saying "but dad, you said that there are no exceptions toe the rules in lojban, why is the rafsi of 'te' 'ter' when all the others are just themselves plus 'l'?". I know it's a cosmetic thing but it does kind of stick in my head like a thorn ya' know? "sel, ter, vel, xel". Blech. - Luke Bergen --0016e646477e99e147046b25c2fe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know I've read something about a "great rafsi relocation" a= nd that not wanting to cause another one of these is the main reason behind= not changing "tel" for stela (lock) to something else is out of = the question.=A0 But that was a while ago.=A0 Is it still completely out of= the question to change just one little rafsi so we can have 100% consisten= cy instead of 99.9% consistency?

I just picture teaching my kids lojban and them saying "but dad, y= ou said that there are no exceptions toe the rules in lojban, why is the ra= fsi of 'te' 'ter' when all the others are just themselves p= lus 'l'?".

I know it's a cosmetic thing but it does kind of stick in my head l= ike a thorn ya' know?=A0 "sel, ter, vel, xel".=A0 Blech.

- Luke Bergen
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