From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jun 09 08:25:51 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 09 Jun 2009 08:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ME3Cx-0004VA-Cw for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 08:25:51 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ME3Cr-0004UT-Gv for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 08:25:51 -0700 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090609152529982.GCBC26412@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 15:25:29 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56992249C for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:25:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: selma'o nomenclature Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:25:26 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <8a20e9f70906090810t759289btcf23dbcfff6c2264@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8a20e9f70906090810t759289btcf23dbcfff6c2264@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200906091125.27525.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-archive-position: 15653 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Tuesday 09 June 2009 11:10:07 Jameson Orndorff wrote: > Just a quick question - when we talk about cmavo and the selma'o to which > they belong, we usually refer to them by saying "selma'o UI" or "selma'o > KOhA" - this seems very unlojbanic. However, after taking a look at the > actual place structure of cmavo, I was left a bit confused. > > x1 is a structure word of grammatical class x2, with meaning/function x3 in > language x4 > How exactly does one fill in the x2 spot? I've seen a number of examples, > such as {zo .ua cmavo lo selma'o be zo .ui} or {zo .ua cmavo zo'e pe zo > .ui} but is there an official answer? I don't know the official answer, but I'd say {zo .ua cmavo zo .ui}. The capitalization is just for computer grammar purposes. What you'd say for cmavo be fo lo rarbau, I'm not sure. Maybe the same way as in Lojban: select one word to represent the selma'o. zoi gy. or .gy. enai zoi gy. if .gy. cmavo zoi gy. and .gy. ("If it rains, the plants get wet" is grammatical, but "And it rains, the plants get wet" is not.) Pierre To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.