From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jun 26 13:08:32 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MKHip-0005Rl-UK for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:08:32 -0700 Received: from mail-gx0-f227.google.com ([209.85.217.227]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MKHim-0005RD-MP for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:08:31 -0700 Received: by gxk27 with SMTP id 27so7192178gxk.10 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:08:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8i10TJyB8ZQ08aBs5Dm1EcQZjFIW112BWQPl1REk3Yo=; b=OXU/YVew/dCCGsWqz45NHlQFXbFHrmrOZ4s11gYWZpx9bemumFxl2l036Lz1SfwQX6 yrTrmrIXNIO9kV25/H2Yuuno4hyZ4gLptojldezYJLNsFZkNxgf/bL8DsjMnXFxYIk// yQZS8h0VxTASa97Dl+gKIjsVz6WHOrUrrJo84= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tpcSiEsUgjVY45ZPr4gNgjSPRXZXCniIaDJUGycmFq4Mu+WwF7V0yTNr31VvrVCNQp RthxR6TEW3Gx2206g07LNoeLRq4jIthED6FkGerKWRucoHcn/cpm5C5pgypcOJOCBDOj ktjlxRS16KN4jRxvskL9XJWzaTXxEhtiNx7u8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.136.13 with SMTP id o13mr7529423ybn.100.1246046902411; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:08:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930906260535k4c4f2f4uafe614261bac6389@mail.gmail.com> References: <4de8c3930906260535k4c4f2f4uafe614261bac6389@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:08:22 -0400 Message-ID: <96f789a60906261308t6098203eld2fb4cabe3e6d72b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: xenru be tu'a la maikl.djaksn. xatra From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 15702 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:35 AM, tijlan wrote: > xatra va'o lo nu le zgikrpopu raitru cu morsi > .i finti fo lo sanga pemci po la'o gy. Human Nature .gy > > tu'e > > .i ganai xai cusku lu ki'u ma li'u > (If they say why) Using ganai/gi for if A happens then B happens is not a good idea. ganai/gi refers to relationships of truth values only (A -> B. If A is true then B is true). Also "xai" doesn't mean "they" in the sense you are using it. It's an experimental way of repeating more than one previous sumti, akin to "ri" Try this: fau lo nu da cusku lu mu'i ma li'u kei (In the event of someone saying "for what motivation?") > gi .e'u spusku lo sedu'u remna kampu > (tell 'em that is human nature) ko jungau da lo du'u remna rarna (YOU inform that someone of the fact (it's) human nature) > .i ganai lu ki'u ma ko'a mi tai co'e li'u xai se cusku > (Why does he do me that way, if they say) .i fau lo nu lu mu'i ma de gasnu ri'i mi tai li'u da cusku da'i (in the event of "What motivation does someone cause something to happen (experienced by me) in some form" someone says, hypothetically, > gi .e'u spusku lo sedu'u remna kampu > (tell 'em that is human nature) ko jungau da lo du'u remna rarna > .i mi nu tai jmive kei nelci > (I like livin' this way) That one is fine --gejyspa > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.