From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jul 08 14:29:15 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MOehW-0000wQ-Rx for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:29:15 -0700 Received: from web50410.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.38.245]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MOehU-0000vR-0N for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:29:14 -0700 Received: (qmail 39120 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jul 2009 21:29:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1247088545; bh=4P9rweyMUYQjJ4wDx6BB/6AS7P/KgQfR9EyrE6jlltA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YFz1a172FVJ/iKN/YKFdhSpZBzwnhR3AYTJ0LzU0a11KLJ70vE3jTtuL/kjG61evBd2VUphQYeOQ3sGrCBw3FIL48cuF++VI5N5wJybhFGGkaDnEk9cdm0rMagDnBa5/6BQ2Nywv/17kto6QFHvYsYkFQW7gWpsFxLxlvolyw9M= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AbYhJTL0DeTJjXggGocbYi1+mo5CURvKD1aOWVCDBIwRjbyYnDtyqXO5yJN+8uTuw8mXtW9DKBfgaFBIRalTgF7h88kDlk1u6F7f81GItX5qf2JF9e8SRfbwBDZNX9lx2yppx8JJ/fx0UA5Y9iOa9wrTzdDXQn4ZQ6HCuB4gRDE=; Message-ID: <443384.39097.qm@web50410.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: VaEYsyYVM1mNoCnIl8zn.Z96e.7pNczj92_LmmUUYVUXnYMxpYoI8Ayw.YHW9kjyHu7AF.PSNbZqiTdl18aWATN.vtpCFE6vmmus6lRAKEElMaqA46FifX0N1uArv8Y0RJ3se9ohZWNi7cO8WOS77ALnx6ohPQKulB2LJ58koL3D_UyxnpzuWvkLNKSCMvzCoK3jUsrLqS23anB3jxZpEHwwjkyH0Tytb2tI6wNlBnJw111LBgx47k_pkpti1wMwPc9v5K7pntfvGUNBTXkWPrglGJrDolDzE6j3GznSDg-- Received: from [71.202.193.61] by web50410.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:29:05 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.21 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 References: <741115.34057.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:29:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Lindar Greenwood Subject: [lojban] Re: cmene for Los Angeles To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <741115.34057.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2051229977-1247088545=:39097" X-archive-position: 15748 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lindarthebard@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --0-2051229977-1247088545=:39097 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay, but despite that fact, and everybody throwing in their two cents, we = should take the local pronunciation.=0AI've heard every bloody UK citizen c= all it either {los.Angelis} or {los.Anjelis}, so we can't take it from how = -everybody- pronounces it.=0AThe midwesterner that posted eir opinion on th= e pronunciation didn't even hit the mark close on the local pronunciation.= =0AThe NorCal person got it probably the closest. It is, in SoCal dialect (= local to the actual city of Los Angeles), it is said [l=C9=92's=C3=A6nd=CA= =92=C9=99l=C9=AAs].=0AI double-checked to make sure I was using the right I= PA, and several sources agree with me in regards to the proper pronunciatio= n.=0ASo, I guess either {las.anjylys}, {los.anxeles}, or {elei}.=0A=0AAlso,= as a side note, I speak RP English, and I just have to say something to th= e brito/non-Americans out there, from one to another.=0AFor the love of GOD= , stop saying {los.anjyliiiiiiiiis} because it's bloody well annoying and o= ffencive that you would so butcher the name of something like that well aft= er you've been corrected (read: {yREgyNO} not {OriGAno} for oregano, comPUT= ER and not COMputer [for some of the brito out there]).=0A=0AAs a side note= for the Americans, I've lived here for close to half of my life, and in va= rious parts.=0AIt's {cejul} not {skedjuyl} for schedule, and it's {tiusdi} = or {tiusdei} (depending on your level of posh) and not {tuzdei}.=0A=0AOne m= ore reason to hate the language.=0A=0AIMHO just say {los.anxeles} and don't= be a tit, because everybody will know what it means, from the scholarliest= scholar to the dumbest nitwit.=0A=0ACheers! <3<3<3=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-2051229977-1247088545=:39097 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Okay, but despite that fact, and everybody throwing in th= eir two cents, we should take the local pronunciation.
I've heard every = bloody UK citizen call it either {los.Angelis} or {los.Anjelis}, so we can'= t take it from how -everybody- pronounces it.
The midwesterner that post= ed eir opinion on the pronunciation didn't even hit the mark close on the l= ocal pronunciation.
The NorCal person got it probably the closest. It is= , in SoCal dialect (local to the actual city of Los Angeles), it is said [<= span title=3D"Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" = class=3D"IPA">l=C9=92's<= span title=3D"Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" clas= s=3D"IPA">=C3=A6nd=CA=92= =C9=99l=C9=AAs].
I double-checked to make sure I was using the rig= ht IPA, and several sources agree with me in regards to the proper pronunci= ation.
So, I guess either {las.anjylys}, {los.anxeles}, or {elei}.
Also, as a side note, I speak RP English, and I just have to say somethin= g to the brito/non-Americans out there, from one to another.
For the love of GOD, stop saying {los.anjyl= iiiiiiiiis} because it's bloody well annoying and offencive that you would = so butcher the name of something like that well after you've been corrected= (read: {yREgyNO} not {OriGAno} for oregano, comPUTER and not COMputer [for= some of the brito out there]).

As a side note for the Americans, I'= ve lived here for close to half of my life, and in various parts.
It's {= cejul} not {skedjuyl} for schedule, and it's {tiusdi} or {tiusdei} (dependi= ng on your level of posh) and not {tuzdei}.

One more reason to hate = the language.

IMHO just say {los.anxeles} and don't be a tit, becaus= e everybody will know what it means, from the scholarliest scholar to the d= umbest nitwit.

Cheers! <3<3<3

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