From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jul 10 12:51:12 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MPM7j-0002yQ-T3 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:51:12 -0700 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MPM7T-0002wS-Rc for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:51:11 -0700 Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so942208fxm.34 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:50:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=C1EkeHsmF+NfF8+OtgqQHII1g9b7r9IijJZywtekwY4=; b=fPgGsNxeqp5gAwoZPUGMUHSc8MbuhiXCyHVZwEAb3KZnGyJSueMDZcPB4FY0pJ3Rn3 Fny5px4uzrdOAvKsB12PLMyIkEVaSvjqCx0yMrvd3a4fkP03gSfQaJKcoSU/wOlM9XRl Dqdd1eb8jFOqHicBNu4HIrfDQvim5pLBxMbKc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=iEf1jTW34KyEM1PdMZMKWyaC8WBqUyZoiH8i0XdGRO6BhxjvEFGyrACZusWMmbFx+r c/M4dyETU+vK98rax720tZYPrdBxZ8qHMweriUI+0p4tXdR4jZ2tY8UCI/SpD08csbJt 7ZWp0QXlSY9KTsUhpbIr97ityjzR0vhUPjd4s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.160.9 with SMTP id m9mr1286878muo.96.1247255449139; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:50:49 -0400 Message-ID: <8a20e9f70907101250qaead48cyf38b1cacd8c5be22@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] preti lo du'u ta'i ma kau zo'o pilno zo kau From: Jameson Orndorff To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e65b41a0fd7ba3046e5f49ed X-archive-position: 15759 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jtorndorff@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --0016e65b41a0fd7ba3046e5f49ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A question that came up recently is how one uses or might use {kau} outside of an abstraction. {kau} is part of selma'o UI and thus gendra just about anywhere, but apparently only has a defined meaning when attached to a word inside an abstraction. {do xusra lo du'u mi kau catra le finpe} - You declare that it was I who killed the fish. vs. {mi kau catra le finpe} - ??? Is this now simple emphasis? I know we have a word for emphasis already - {ba'e}. Does it make it sort of a more declarative or bold statement than simply saying it? "I killed the fish." vs. "It was I who killed the fish!" ki'e mu'o mi'e kribacr --0016e65b41a0fd7ba3046e5f49ed Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A question that came up recently is how one uses or might use {kau} ou= tside of an abstraction. {kau} is part of selma'o UI and thus gendra ju= st about anywhere, but apparently only has a defined meaning when attached = to a word inside an abstraction.
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{do xusra lo du'u mi kau catra le finpe} - You declare that it was= I who killed the fish.
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{mi kau catra le finpe} - ???=A0Is this now simple=A0emphasis? I know = we have=A0a word for emphasis already - {ba'e}. Does it make it sort of= a more declarative or bold statement than simply saying it? "I killed= the fish." vs. "It was I who killed the fish!"=A0
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ki'e mu'o mi'e kribacr
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