From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jul 16 14:01:13 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MRY4m-0005jf-Kk for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:01:13 -0700 Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com ([209.85.218.227]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MRY4h-0005hX-Qb for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:01:12 -0700 Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so329800bwz.34 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:01:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=T10Y6YV2afOIXq3Fmc36YgzCACXdvtyflzgCbxASHzk=; b=GFZ4c1tPkn6kpf4IneylZI4eipvN3EH92OBM6smHfk29xBga3NtCZ7RBP6l0qro5E2 0ZB+1GL+X045gLKanvK4OZ+2Sjc1qBMMe0XIwuZe1YLs45Y5E+X0Fn0g61XTHoQpAxSN CW5/cARj6YeWcHiLXfGo5XtrvAaGE2isUSVNQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kyzkrvOsjCdfDUnbH8kzbXUu082rcOb8TwW/EnjWtWFftX9jvaKVCNnMSOQ22quXcI 2Qnu8G0Vgv8m+kirBBOFznLYTAAuvnjQVksDurUDQySb3CDpXPvKmmpU3QOy9YBPsxj4 tDwJ8eH300iSMSnAsWOHeOR/W0euZUsY55mVE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.104.74 with SMTP id n10mr46593fao.5.1247778060838; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:01:00 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 528312c914542b12 Message-ID: <4de8c3930907161401n237ebc25v5641111b00646a89@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] gugde From: tijlan To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 15771 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jbotijlan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Here's my translation for the first paragraph of uikipedias' article on "gugde" (which currently is blank and gets redirected to "liste loi gugde"), from the English version (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_state). This is pertinent to the "gugde" discussion on the jbovlaste list. eng ------------------------------- A sovereign state is a political association with effective internal and external sovereignty over a geographic area and population which is not dependant on, or subject to, the power of any other power of state. While in abstract terms a sovereign state can exist without being recognised by other sovereign states, unrecognised states will often find it difficult to exercise full treaty-making powers and engage in diplomatic relations with other sovereign states. jbo ------------------------------- lo gugde cu jecta girzu lo ca'a ka nenri je bartu ziftru lo canlu .e lo xabju kei poi na lacri ja rinju lo nu lo drata gugde cu vlipa .i fau lo ku'i si'o da ka'e gugde fi'o na zanru lo drata gugde kei ta'e nandu fa lo nu lo na'e se zanru gugde cu mulno vlipa tu'a lo gugbinselnu'e gi'e se jansu srana lo drata gugde (Should "jecta girzu" be "se jecta girzu"? Or maybe "jecta te girzu"?) mu'o mi'e tijlan To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.