From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jul 20 14:00:39 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MSzyR-0006BN-13 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:00:39 -0700 Received: from ol.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.20] helo=sdf.lonestar.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MSzyN-0006A8-W2 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:00:38 -0700 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@iceland.freeshell.org [192.94.73.5]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6KL0XsL001296 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:00:33 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.12.8/Submit) id n6KL0Xve022812 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:00:33 GMT Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:00:33 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Philosophical differences. Message-ID: <20090720210032.GB29625@sdf.lonestar.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <126025.43169.qm@web50408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090720132908.GJ26708@nvg.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090720132908.GJ26708@nvg.org> Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-archive-position: 15779 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list de'i li 20 pi'e 07 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Arnt Richard Johansen .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > I wonder what the opinion of the millennial Lojbanists are on stability? (If > you first heard of Lojban after 2002, I'm talking to you.) Do you personally > consider it important? .skamyxatra I consider it important, but not as important as fixing mistakes. At this point, I think a good way to handle the evolution of Lojban would be to split it into two "branches": a main branch that continues to use the language as described in the CLL and as it is currently being used, with no conscious changes made, and one "experimental" branch controlled by the BPFK that is changed & optimized constantly in order to address current and future problems. If & when the experimental branch becomes stable and has had input from everyone in the community, it can replace the main branch as the next official version of Lojban; until then, the branches remain separate and the BPFK's actions have no effect on the community as a whole. To those who only use the main branch, this eliminates worry about things changing overnight, while those who want to see things changed can get them changed and experiment with the results with others freely. The most obvious problem with this approach is not knowing what branch or version of Lojban a person is using. Perhaps we could start by devising a means of specifying a version number in text, e.g., "{sei repinomoi jboterfarvi}." mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. -- ko kutygau le do skami jbipru bo vreji To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.