From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Jul 25 22:28:06 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MUwHG-00082k-Jh for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:28:06 -0700 Received: from mail-gx0-f220.google.com ([209.85.217.220]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MUwHE-00082N-1Z for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:28:06 -0700 Received: by gxk20 with SMTP id 20so11373944gxk.10 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:27:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qn8xDbidABKmTpJUereoFkk8oZ4bpRrZkZBXxEyou8U=; b=fy3E28NM4fBOLbB30NsjVOMJABiH1lx7oy2tg14oe4IsY+LH3rSUO7nF8LvX3Skbs/ q9xdP8lLwEdiqEXps+H8OyCJZBLYnfAqde3PUhVcnvyaVZGQlSHls1xDGy76JIlAGxAS PzA2oe2hNoHoUdoPjBMLlJ6NtSGJj2nR4XvcI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TFfXxX12dGhCV/+J1euxy64JRcBMK1twuzgzKpyTHPPkghYQt/F0awrK22zMw44WND wHOl5cjb4KbDoG0VDo7DXS/o+xhk9UCsAsKPlbBi8ERCHc98d50DnY48etNzxnAtiKEo sSpcumft4mtQY+qaWGS8vLEacHExdmL179fzc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.17.194 with SMTP id t2mr1728897iba.20.1248586077284; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:27:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <330956.40087.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <126025.43169.qm@web50408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <228475.79712.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A6B38D4.80606@lojban.org> <330956.40087.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 01:27:57 -0400 Message-ID: <425e4ac20907252227o3a6a1e28taa846e5983e4a6bc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Philosophical differences. From: Stela Selckiku To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 15802 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: selckiku@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list mi'e la stela selckiku On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:04 PM, John E Clifford wrote: > > As for Lojban --again because of its small base -- new words are relatively infrequent > (as new text is) and any attempt to officially add a new word is -- if anyone notices -- > subjected to a review of the sort noted (see frabi and barfi), which rarely happens in > English and, when it does, is usually after the word has disappeared. This used to be true but I don't believe it is anymore. There's a lot of freeform conversation in Lojban these days, and a lot of words are made up all the time. There are always faddish silly words. Almost all of them do conform somewhat to the word-building rules (the only exception I can think of being the brief fad of saying "cccccccccccccoi"), but an unreasonable number of them are "xargismu" (as it's in style to say these days!)-- I think just because people get used to gismu-shape as the-shape-of-a-Lojban-word. Anyway it's clear to me that Lojban has just the same distinction now as any language between its official and its living form. > Does anyone feel the need to learn all the words of Lojban? I would like to learn all the words of Lojban! I'm fascinated by old strange lujvo and fu'ivla. The only reason I'm trying to learn every single one of the gismu is for completeness, though. A lot of the gismu are the most obscure words in Lojban. I'm not sure that every gismu has been used a single time. mu'o To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.