From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jul 28 11:02:43 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MVr0c-0005CX-Uc for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:02:43 -0700 Received: from mail-yx0-f195.google.com ([209.85.210.195]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MVr0X-0005AO-6y for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:02:42 -0700 Received: by yxe33 with SMTP id 33so323298yxe.28 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:02:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UewQctA4BEtEf84vU2az/YPWmZWtzadUOqFJVABSwjY=; b=rBHYAquhLZzu+/O3+jmFyONdfnQpdjzGTTxfagNZ3WI+X9jxL80IDAFyjtJPWOUhzs 1f0sGu3vZUuAw57Mx63NB4Vg52Yf1N820sxo7Z1CI75IlQ0JhwwQs91HBeEs4aE54pAu Np9yJ7bxIVv3IPV8B2nGrn6JghaxQFC1Flq2Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fWuCYycPiwAlXmAAW3F09tK6EJkZ0KH8cLVvYX4vrimHpSQRgl/qM6aRE+FyYaw5ux jUpiqjXposOu+aFGnItgwe86YEtaoT8kCbTnE5ZYgaJ/AhJFr+j/zhdgzHr1DqNGtrce B4HovPcZlt07vxZPQpv1PxM+oQDgjJ+F6QTqA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.90.6 with SMTP id n6mr6785564agb.60.1248804149763; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:02:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <636622.68753.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <126025.43169.qm@web50408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <228475.79712.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A6B38D4.80606@lojban.org> <330956.40087.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <425e4ac20907252227o3a6a1e28taa846e5983e4a6bc@mail.gmail.com> <44347.77723.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <425e4ac20907280207n434a2663ta5cafad58b7f7bbe@mail.gmail.com> <636622.68753.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:02:25 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560907281102y20923980y7fcfca008af6ca39@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Philosophical differences. From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 15827 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 1:12 PM, John E Clifford wrote: > > The second point is that, if Lojban is unparsable (and your assurances > in the face of failing parsers is not comforting), it loses its main raison d'etre. I don't think stela said Lojban was unparsable, he just said that the actual parser implementations are not perfect. As far as I know, camxes is practically in complete agreement with the official specification, and where it deviates it does so on purpose. jbofi'e has some known unintentional bugs. There are various proposals for simplifying the official specification in a few respects, but obviously not to change the specification to make the language unparsable, just to change it to something simpler (I'm thinking for example of the grammar of compound tags). mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.