From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jul 28 13:45:48 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MVtYS-0004aP-8Z for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:45:48 -0700 Received: from web50408.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.38.73]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MVtYP-0004Zd-5f for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:45:48 -0700 Received: (qmail 39437 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Jul 2009 20:45:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248813953; bh=2mVfBYietcBRKahQrTcK4vjDVjUKA9B85imXrlmkGUg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rPrv6MwfuS8OFimgCxMoSjNysO8qWI2CdS1JymMz6xj2HW0leoUuFpMNgVaHjpGAVhpv51gujguJ2lEVHpuh0SjWlnEuMlhmvwPY7VsCqxavzOBcBUsKQbRrK9frERMmIp2eH6hsK/DJ3VRhoN3wJwzfHNV32xIcoeHS8hEiiok= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0U/TCY3mbEh0zIllchN66zJfQfxMUmaxU8iNLpqLbzKepw6lI+fMJrxpCPvSz9YuETUFyBl8Q+4bIJiKolRgnKpAjZVJDX9S8EvCDOF8uxUCqaf1Q3HzvzWH37SwhKdOFvLNvTrOtWpk1GzvPJmgzRI7wrctC86Ty+OZkvc4UQY=; Message-ID: <843669.38761.qm@web50408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: vJ13omsVM1nAuKSV31HwUVo.7qycfzOzlXbQXqLraDaSOwRXPZdpMKl7zQajvo.JmktuLhGeJxbHoGKThjpgAg13hhDLzWhG6FR_nU0Kna1Y02qEPA9ZyPv9Vw5AAHlD02c6gYKIUZjNgqSvpCtbRaRDiQQZ26jIXAO4PuiRBFQ_nK1Vg1OSvor7GfJ3fq5UHM7USmoa_l1B4PgptlME6TJE_R8g.fctHIlkHbM.L2LxzDzu2tZSY.0V3PmG51Jysi28YZFBjR7h4quEPAX5wozf4ANJIaGP_PgeQF1VBSiQDwNQMs07NtM4YCaWYzzS4IVrEo9edQ9eWZOimL63EVMm5qOs56wWHiH7oII- Received: from [71.202.193.61] by web50408.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:45:53 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.22 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.1 References: <4A6F5A92.6040304@perpetuum-immobile.de> <4A6F5D8C.7020904@perpetuum-immobile.de> <925d17560907281338t6aff1e64k5044f4c803433c11@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:45:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Lindar Greenwood Subject: [lojban] Re: jbolatmi'a - o rly? To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <925d17560907281338t6aff1e64k5044f4c803433c11@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1267655324-1248813953=:38761" X-archive-position: 15836 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lindarthebard@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --0-1267655324-1248813953=:38761 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >But iacu'i/ianai are completely devoid of sarcasm. "o rly?" seems to express some kind of fake naivete, but that is totally absent from iacu'i/ianai, which is plain doubt or disbelief. Wouldn't something like "ua ju'opei" be a more appropriate translation? (I'm not really a user of "o rly?" so I'm just going by the wikipedia description.) mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. Well, I agree on that point. "O RLY?" comes with a level of sarcasm, usually followed by an equally sarcastic "YA RLY" and then completing with "NO WAI!!!". --0-1267655324-1248813953=:38761 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii


>But iacu'i/ianai are completely devoid of sarcasm. "o rly?" seems to
express some kind of fake naivete, but that is totally absent from
iacu'i/ianai, which is plain doubt or disbelief. Wouldn't something
like "ua ju'opei" be a more appropriate translation? (I'm not really a
user of "o rly?" so I'm just going by the wikipedia description.)

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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Well, I agree on that point. "O RLY?" comes with a level of sarcasm,
usually followed by an equally sarcastic "YA RLY" and then completing
with "NO WAI!!!".


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