From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Aug 25 16:28:53 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mg5Rc-00064w-O3 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:28:53 -0700 Received: from ol.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.20] helo=sdf.lonestar.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mg5RW-00064h-Eb for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:28:52 -0700 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@iceland.freeshell.org [192.94.73.5]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7PNShal011891 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:28:43 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.12.8/Submit) id n7PNSgPk026336 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:28:42 GMT Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:28:42 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: How many possible gismu? Message-ID: <20090825232841.GA11782@sdf.lonestar.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20090825.151921.6127.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> <20090825224818.GA22578@sdf.lonestar.org> <5715b9300908251619g6a366189xea7d4c4d13e41385@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5715b9300908251619g6a366189xea7d4c4d13e41385@mail.gmail.com> Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-archive-position: 16043 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list de'i li 25 pi'e 08 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Luke Bergen .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > where conflicts are when two gismu must not be exactly the same except for > the trailing vowel? > > Could that be taken care of by just taking off the last "* 5"? .skamyxatra Two {gismu} may not differ by a single consonant when the different consonants are related according to the table in item 4 of section 4.14 of the CLL; up until about an hour ago, this entire thread was about how to take that restriction into account when calculating the number of possible {gismu}. Dividing 76075 by 5 to get 15215 would take care of the final-vowel conflicts but not the similar-consonants conflicts. mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. -- na'e du'u mi lazni .i du'u mi na'e selra'u sa'u To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.