From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Sep 07 17:25:00 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MkoW3-00051z-RH for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:25:00 -0700 Received: from mail-yw0-f192.google.com ([209.85.211.192]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MkoVv-00051A-Lu for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:24:59 -0700 Received: by ywh30 with SMTP id 30so4481350ywh.25 for ; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:24:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OpZ9CnPV8b9ocy2SOCjIGHNk+05ytE0Nd+GH6Eptd6o=; b=t8Pp0HikZY6AfHILGmVNJdyn3FIElgJYnGR0A0OyGznjT3Xq/YxlI1LHSG/lvDVZxD DR/GVgbYJUnJEcYFgkoImPvOT6eHY5e+IbNK+6sE5PEMUGcicMfd6EL9++LzW+xH06Df iv5pkbT7C3HjgUEVC+kYULLfGPKuDA1PvDExY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SHtPGSQMFBQ+KgJghm4u2Ikk//CEkVGHO6H6nJIrtR8cWZEnNum3zjm7a2Oop63i3N eiJAxUzh7lXzyH/qeLyu2JJQnkXr0yAH29ct59EX1w5yRbQnl3Uo44y0tUmGIB5ZYqQd uRj3j8vvv+Vvje3iTFslnAM+TZeTsJJZbOOF8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.113.19 with SMTP id l19mr23667631ybc.239.1252369485391; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:24:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9ada8ecd0909071709s5181e5d4r8e7803ac95581ad3@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ada8ecd0909051425t78a046f3kddef2869e5c8e7a2@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560909060746n223ad9c7ic88894c3513a6ea1@mail.gmail.com> <9ada8ecd0909061401n35c37197j6ff4fac5b267fc5e@mail.gmail.com> <9ada8ecd0909061426r95b84efu76464f7327430f6c@mail.gmail.com> <395902.46727.qm@web50406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <9ada8ecd0909061448p2eaa92ep19569f2b66793b76@mail.gmail.com> <386480.83513.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9ada8ecd0909071709s5181e5d4r8e7803ac95581ad3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 10:24:45 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: xorlo From: Arran To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd48b044de67d047305fe3e X-archive-position: 16098 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arran4@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --000e0cd48b044de67d047305fe3e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Personally I think you are using le/la/lo too much if this is your problem.. Past beginner level I think that the need for le/la/lo should wear off, as you start using things like da/de/PA, ect On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Squark Rabinovich wrote: > Also *lo* is as specific as *le* but veridicial? How is it possible, then, > to refer to unspecific objects? Suppose I want to say "there exists a * > broda* such that..." or "all *broda* have the property..." > --000e0cd48b044de67d047305fe3e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Personally I think you are using le/la/lo too much if this is your problem.= . Past beginner level I think that the need for le/la/lo should wear off, a= s you start using things like da/de/PA, ect

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Squark Rabinovich <top.squark@gmail.com> w= rote:
Also lo=A0is as specific as le=A0but veridicial? How is= it possible, then, to refer to unspecific objects? Suppose I want to say &= quot;there exists a broda=A0such that..." or "all broda= =A0have the property..."

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