From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Sep 09 18:00:23 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlY1O-0004bZ-TD for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:00:23 -0700 Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.146]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlY1L-0004Yv-Fz for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:00:22 -0700 Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n8A1056r021965 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 2009 21:00:05 -0400 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id d.bc3.5395e72c (32913) for ; Wed, 9 Sep 2009 20:59:57 -0400 (EDT) From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 20:59:57 EDT Subject: [lojban] Re: xorlo To: lojban-list@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bc3.5395e72c.37d9a98d_boundary" X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 11501 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com X-archive-position: 16143 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --part1_bc3.5395e72c.37d9a98d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/9/2009 09:29:41 Eastern Daylight Time, kali9putra@yahoo.com writes: > OK, "arithmetic" in the technical sense, i.e., the theory of the natural > numbers, from Peano's axioms or Frege's or from set theory by any of > various routes -- or all of the above. West Coast (vs. East) in the 60's seems > to have been characterized by (among several other points) by starting the > natural numbers at 0 and by using variable outside the ordering to begin > with, then switching over to ordinals beginning with 0. "UCLA" is just > hubris, though that is where most of this stuff was done in those days. But > Berkeley would do almost as well, even Stanford, but definitely not Harvard or > Princeton > > Ah, thanks for the clarification. stevo --part1_bc3.5395e72c.37d9a98d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a messag= e dated 9/9/2009 09:29:41 Eastern Daylight Time, kali9putra@yahoo.com writ= es:


OK, "arithmetic" in the= technical sense, i.e., the theory of the natural numbers, from Peano's ax= ioms or Frege's or from set theory by any of various routes -- or all of= the above.  West Coast (vs. East) in the 60's seems to have been cha= racterized  by (among several other points) by starting the natural= numbers at 0 and by using variable outside the ordering to begin with, th= en switching over to ordinals beginning with 0.  "UCLA" is just hubri= s, though that is where most of this stuff was done in those days.  B= ut Berkeley would do almost as well, even Stanford, but definitely not Har= vard or Princeton



Ah, thanks for the clarification.

stevo
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