From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Sep 11 05:53:40 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mm5dD-0004lD-Ng for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:53:39 -0700 Received: from mail-ew0-f216.google.com ([209.85.219.216]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mm5d8-0004kS-BX for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:53:39 -0700 Received: by ewy12 with SMTP id 12so1138720ewy.0 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:53:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4MH4A3+tws3ZYX4uhvb3Pz9CXSxtS9x2HBb+Iy0nx4U=; b=GboajaUnMRn9mGWKZqWgHG+9p/VVZCWCcIjY+Wk7bvnyNjV3S1ix57oWyA3FKurx+5 4353i7PRJF+mjfcly38+ZJFiCo/53YNIHemgUW/fWECE2HZoo5CkGFxhQc14hZoh7Zem lx9TgJ8wSsZjxCo9t/h/oJePUT3SxqJZXkP3M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xY4yCpefrDY1ABbBfzEDrJmQpXW+oIcksQc9WDX+Xa6ec3v99m36kJY8ERGDq44Zo+ CAQCzvIrw2d57G7xDc3VRqfhGlwerWsqxqpcVFTX4LdRMaBKk5cj+R8y4M0Q1Tu7ZXC8 8Q/8h1DLtwnOI3qhph+W84yT96CN86+A/VGcs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.49.17 with SMTP id w17mr167905web.128.1252673607671; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:53:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5715b9300909110546w65b948bbm45e7ba698e1050b4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4de8c3930909110409w35f41b1bm186e230607911514@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300909110546w65b948bbm45e7ba698e1050b4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:53:27 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: E-Prime & Lojban From: Mikael Hall To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f724ec67a0d504734ccdf7 X-archive-position: 16147 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mikael.hall@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --001485f724ec67a0d504734ccdf7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "How would you say "I'm here", for instance?" =3D> "I occupy place at this location". I like the intention of this language very much ... oops! 2009/9/11 Luke Bergen > sometimes when I'm figuring out how to say what I want to say in my head > I'll throw in an unnecessary {cu} because it sounds right due to an engli= sh > {is}. > > That E-Prime thing looks interesting. But it seems like there would be > some things in english that you simply couldn't say without using a "to b= e" > form of verb. > > How would you say "I'm here", for instance? > > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:09 AM, tijlan wrote: > >> What do you think of E-Prime? >> >> Does the practice of Lojban discourage uses of "to be" in English? We >> seem to frequent the form of "lo skina cu pluka" more than the form of >> "lo skina cu me lo pluka", in which "me" may roughly correspond to the >> English copula "be", as in "the movie is good". Could this mean that >> Lojban has some bearings on the discipline of E-Prime? >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Prime >> >> mu'o jundi mi'e tijlan >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to >> lojban-list-request@lojban.org >> with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or i= f >> you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. >> >> > --=20 "No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical." =97 Niels Bohr "There are two kinds of people, those who finish what they start and so on.= " =97 Robert Byrne --001485f724ec67a0d504734ccdf7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "How would you say "I'm here", for instance?"

=3D>


"I occupy place at this location".
I like the intention of this language very much ... oops!


2009/9/11 Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>
sometimes when I'm figuring out how to say what I want to say in my hea= d I'll throw in an unnecessary {cu} because it sounds right due to an e= nglish {is}.

That E-Prime thing looks interesting.=A0 But it seems l= ike there would be some things in english that you simply couldn't say = without using a "to be" form of verb.=A0

How would you say "I'm here", for instance?


On Fri, Sep 11, 2009= at 7:09 AM, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:
What do you think= of E-Prime?

Does the practice of Lojban discourage uses of "to be" in English= ? We
seem to frequent the form of "lo skina cu pluka" more than the fo= rm of
"lo skina cu me lo pluka", in which "me" may roughly co= rrespond to the
English copula "be", as in "the movie is good". Could t= his mean that
Lojban has some bearings on the discipline of E-Prime?

http://e= n.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Prime

mu'o jundi mi'e tijlan


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