From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Sep 11 06:01:24 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mm5kh-0005MT-NO for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:01:24 -0700 Received: from mail-yw0-f204.google.com ([209.85.211.204]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mm5kc-0005Kc-CB for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:01:23 -0700 Received: by ywh42 with SMTP id 42so1616315ywh.30 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:01:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ecp3gmCj0X01kSZsIClSEgoi83IWJ/GKcJin8/OBtG4=; b=gaPh81AbylsX0nIWKDIO7fZvsIZeBpd/hfSWymUPiOIsXB5hWrB0D8RvjDktJQ4x7t VvXkHoT3Uprp8ajdZSrIvGVSoc4hQFah1iFASDKfS9c6Q82SSrQo2tEW3Y+rdQmKBF5Y rYnSLpr5H0aZUTWhj8Yi/fMfOu9E2Xof/XGV8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=w+rIgmAHbhd7M+K0Dley5kD5fd3L/e0+gOywyufNgxASGcfOJC2U60s9DkHXshFNdi sLDJI64izNT2hkwBr9TCwkWTb1icNreg24Ie2UqRuQHUGcO47VF0xVFmCL6VjzLOH8KC PNzoaG+iXYYFw34ym4UHx41SaL02awC3Fo2es= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.119.23 with SMTP id r23mr4858259ybc.169.1252674072117; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:01:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4de8c3930909110409w35f41b1bm186e230607911514@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300909110546w65b948bbm45e7ba698e1050b4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:01:12 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300909110601t2c92b8efx6941354a15e17420@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: E-Prime & Lojban From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd70e5416812c04734ce946 X-archive-position: 16148 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --000e0cd70e5416812c04734ce946 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable does "I like the intention of this language very much" use any "to be" verb forms? (this really is hard to get used to, I wanted to say "how does your sentence use 'to be'") On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Mikael Hall wrote: > "How would you say "I'm here", for instance?" > > > =3D> > > > "I occupy place at this location". > > I like the intention of this language very much ... oops! > > > 2009/9/11 Luke Bergen > > sometimes when I'm figuring out how to say what I want to say in my head >> I'll throw in an unnecessary {cu} because it sounds right due to an engl= ish >> {is}. >> >> That E-Prime thing looks interesting. But it seems like there would be >> some things in english that you simply couldn't say without using a "to = be" >> form of verb. >> >> How would you say "I'm here", for instance? >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:09 AM, tijlan wrote: >> >>> What do you think of E-Prime? >>> >>> Does the practice of Lojban discourage uses of "to be" in English? We >>> seem to frequent the form of "lo skina cu pluka" more than the form of >>> "lo skina cu me lo pluka", in which "me" may roughly correspond to the >>> English copula "be", as in "the movie is good". Could this mean that >>> Lojban has some bearings on the discipline of E-Prime? >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Prime >>> >>> mu'o jundi mi'e tijlan >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to >>> lojban-list-request@lojban.org >>> with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or >>> if >>> you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. >>> >>> >> > > > -- > "No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical." =97 Niels Bohr > > "There are two kinds of people, those who finish what they start and so > on." > =97 Robert Byrne > > --000e0cd70e5416812c04734ce946 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable does "I like the intention of this language very much" use any &q= uot;to be" verb forms?=A0 (this really is hard to get used to, I wante= d to say "how does your sentence use 'to be'")

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Mikael Hall <mikael.hall@gmail.com> wrot= e:
"How would you say "I'm here", for ins= tance?"


=3D>


"I occupy place at th= is location".

I like the intention of this language very much .= .. oops!


2009/9/11 Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>
<= /div>

sometimes when I'm figuring out how to say what I want to say in my hea= d I'll throw in an unnecessary {cu} because it sounds right due to an e= nglish {is}.

That E-Prime thing looks interesting.=A0 But it seems l= ike there would be some things in english that you simply couldn't say = without using a "to be" form of verb.=A0

How would you say "I'm here", for instance?


On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:09 AM, = tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:
What do you think= of E-Prime?

Does the practice of Lojban discourage uses of "to be" in English= ? We
seem to frequent the form of "lo skina cu pluka" more than the fo= rm of
"lo skina cu me lo pluka", in which "me" may roughly co= rrespond to the
English copula "be", as in "the movie is good". Could t= his mean that
Lojban has some bearings on the discipline of E-Prime?

http://e= n.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Prime

mu'o jundi mi'e tijlan


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--
"No, no, you're not thinking; you're = just being logical." =97 Niels Bohr

"There are two kinds o= f people, those who finish what they start and so on."
=97 Robert Byrne


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