From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Sep 16 11:48:32 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MnzYO-0005lL-4l for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:48:32 -0700 Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com ([209.85.218.227]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MnzYJ-0005kn-3V for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:48:32 -0700 Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so3681836bwz.34 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:48:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=jl7iV2z4qLw/pN4LQkk1nNeSv2LuzxPNeq97VxvzYDA=; b=rIpZBkcbnjktrJzlqPs7ja0IqaBA8lpay5e2O1foKHrqE/FfEzAVI0h83cVrGXjknc fn59tJ/9mJtKjCR6+rSFav9scp2tXGp9l20JAGN8OqznboTe/GyiX/k9eMGO5OxuVDeT zqnDwMXGOHAP7ngY6hpPxHR6bSibGY0Y604Mk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=KVxjD9trG54yejjR/po+sBrAB6Nm1EZv3nj0fjDy5eZUK6GZDXxucoj/a3hynTl46M gBpwJimJYzae4JOuZi3LsbSfSZEPo7PSjMEaYZzddrT/0UiMQrI8PTs+3fA5p1Gti/67 +4fWf9tJnHzz8crlbSFhbsredsBD41bk7xJaQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.182.145 with SMTP id q17mr855480hbg.136.1253126899820; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:48:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <96f789a60909161012u684d1f73nc1377e2ff6b5ac71@mail.gmail.com> References: <96f789a60909161012u684d1f73nc1377e2ff6b5ac71@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:48:19 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4400110028085d20 Message-ID: <12d58c160909161148qa0b5da2o276eaca246482a38@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Fwd: lojban and raising a child bi-lingual From: "komfo,amonan" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f77532b8e8640473b6570a X-archive-position: 16210 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: komfoamonan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --001485f77532b8e8640473b6570a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Adam Raizen wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 22:25, wrote: >> >>> If you were immersed in a foreign-language culture for all your waking >>> hours with no other possible language to communicate with, and in a culture >>> that you saw yourself as a part of, you too would learn the language >>> fluently, and in far less than the approximately 6 years that children take >>> to attain fluency. >>> >>> >>> >>> Maybe. >>> >> >> >> > Sometimes a quarter of a century isn't enough: > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-434844/Missing-25-years-getting-wrong-bus.html > --gejyspa > Haha I blogged that at the time: http://laxmahispajispaji.blogspot.com/2007/02/naldra-sorprekarce-wrong-bus.html Of course, the woman in question was already 50 at the time, & spent much of the time in a homeless shelter -- not exactly immersed in the culture. Weird that it took so long for the situation to get sorted. mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan --001485f77532b8e8640473b6570a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Michael Turniansky <<= a href=3D"mailto:mturniansky@gmail.com">mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 a= t 3:29 PM, Adam Raizen <adam.raizen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 22:25, <MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com> wrote:
If you were immersed in a foreign-languag= e culture for all your waking hours with no other possible language to comm= unicate with, and in a culture that you saw yourself as a part of, you too = would learn the language fluently, and in far less than the approximately 6= years that children take to attain fluency.


Maybe.=20

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=C2=A0 Sometimes a quarter of a century isn't enough= :
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/= news/article-434844/Missing-25-years-getting-wrong-bus.html
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 --gejyspa

Haha I blogged that at the time: http://laxma= hispajispaji.blogspot.com/2007/02/naldra-sorprekarce-wrong-bus.html

Of course, the woman in question was already 50 at the time, & spen= t much of the time in a homeless shelter -- not exactly immersed in the cul= ture. Weird that it took so long for the situation to get sorted.

mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan

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