From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Sep 19 16:15:57 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mp99p-0004Y9-BX for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:15:57 -0700 Received: from mail-ew0-f216.google.com ([209.85.219.216]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mp99j-0004Xo-Ud for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:15:57 -0700 Received: by ewy12 with SMTP id 12so2018361ewy.0 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:15:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZE2CBOZQvVAwPk5RaoRb2XICHfXalNDSikfJbzYqM/E=; b=kx0L+ANqYDhIilZ1rVtL93csxVm5vR58aOMwEDjXUnBv2seMwew6i2XqRseDXTaiZC I2WuAuvD/fJ8fR/fTLSxyMM+qdNHxK4ZJVlFjV0wnKHml8kBfkCrQKf2IZ1XLKfBsDAh 5q6Yo5JS7bE5KYxobO2DWRTnfqhkoWLyOMjEQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rFQpNJMvOcih0GmFP2bgDPLXFoKV5yoCjCFP9q0vJ23YHXyGMFJyovhWCofhoe6hg0 TTjdVdZvzY0D92qpkkpg8/Lhp2EpqET3+HJ/0nHu229d2XHWY0I72xwsKN5HV3iWAK3w Vs9v3geqhHqC3U4U0u00lPOgMp9vgHP8ED0eM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.93.27 with SMTP id q27mr1284353ebb.6.1253402145349; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:15:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:15:45 -0400 Message-ID: <8a20e9f70909191615we96905ftf531c456a43cffd9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Generic specific sumti From: Jameson Orndorff To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1e496a2612c0473f66d7e X-archive-position: 16216 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jtorndorff@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --000e0cd1e496a2612c0473f66d7e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not {zo'e}? On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Daniel Brockman wrote: > I wish Lojban had a generic word for a specific sumti, meaning {le > co'e}. I guess {le co'e ku} is okay (the terminator is often needed), > but it just seems weird to have all these words with specificity > implied, but no generic one. > > We have {le}, {la}, {ti}, {ta}, {tu}, {ri}, {ra}, {ru}, {ko'a}, > {ko'e}, {ko'i}, {ko'o}, {ko'u}, {fo'a}, {fo'e}, {fo'i}, {fo'o}, > {fo'u}, {dei}, {di'e}, {di'u}, {da'e}, {da'u}, {de'e}, {de'u}, {go'a}, > {go'e}, {go'i}, {go'o}, {go'u}, and I guess probably others. > > So we can allocate all these specific words with implied specificity, > but we can't have a generic one with implied specificity. > > Like I said, it just seems weird. > > > -- > Daniel Brockman > daniel@brockman.se > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > --000e0cd1e496a2612c0473f66d7e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not {zo'e}?

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 6= :55 PM, Daniel Brockman <daniel@brockman.se> wrote:
I wish Lojban had a generic word for a specific sumti, meaning {le
co'e}. =A0I guess {le co'e ku} is okay (the terminator is often nee= ded),
but it just seems weird to have all these words with specificity
implied, but no generic one.

We have {le}, {la}, {ti}, {ta}, {tu}, {ri}, {ra}, {ru}, {ko'a},
{ko'e}, {ko'i}, {ko'o}, {ko'u}, {fo'a}, {fo'e}, {fo= 'i}, {fo'o},
{fo'u}, {dei}, {di'e}, {di'u}, {da'e}, {da'u}, {de'= e}, {de'u}, {go'a},
{go'e}, {go'i}, {go'o}, {go'u}, and I guess probably others= .

So we can allocate all these specific words with implied specificity,
but we can't have a generic one with implied specificity.

Like I said, it just seems weird.


--
Daniel Brockman
daniel@brockman.se


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