From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Sep 22 11:00:05 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mq9em-0007nz-IO for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:00:05 -0700 Received: from mail-fx0-f225.google.com ([209.85.220.225]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mq9ei-0007kc-4R for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:00:03 -0700 Received: by fxm25 with SMTP id 25so3160883fxm.0 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:59:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rcXZRb8ZTcMLdndjsl5GpPkkfpg7NRzFC/Fduw8WSpU=; b=Jf0p6gPoMu4QKEh2mIa2cdby23NTUrG/YNEbxUoa9ghZHwDJgYFEi+nKuAsowLzYkx UxYtxi5UGYIHKqgaex6smB32JmOlegCrBRwWGjJv/lllm1cVrqeCq97anE0k+R6oqdlw wTeukq45KjbeIlTKiCXLYQ4uNzBcXQ6z0rAtU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vKcsSYmdjM9GgdZqKkrGaWwl3JOjEexRF8yHlKeFPUNzFcaMarXUbSFJE5wregZ3m6 k2Okmc4bzT7nTLokYF9B6cawU9hMHSzVKwgpg7XBOHTK5ak0BjE6RiY1Ow/QPf+ef98Y kxwGJ+DG+Eg492E6kUog33Xva8GblC0io3ubc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.18.145 with SMTP id w17mr1057673bka.42.1253642393614; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:59:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8a20e9f70909191615we96905ftf531c456a43cffd9@mail.gmail.com> <5a3750120909200842v5e125db0m3f583f74605bcf93@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:59:53 +0300 Message-ID: <5a3750120909221059q499572bds9f3b7acf77ea1695@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Generic specific sumti From: Oleksii Melnyk To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 16239 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lamelnyk@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list 2009/9/22, Daniel Brockman : > You don't consider {le co'e} to be a specific thing the speaker has in mind? I do. But, than "le SELBRI" == "lo THE THING, SPEAKER HAVE IN MIND, DESCRIBED AS SELBRI" (i beleive, it can be expressed in lojban somehow). That gives us "le co'e" == "lo co'e". If you want do emphasize the fact of having it in mind, you have "lo selpei be mi" and alike. So, i still see no "use case" for the new sumti. -- mu'o mi'e lex To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.