From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Sep 24 17:28:24 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mqyfg-0006ul-53 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:28:24 -0700 Received: from mail-px0-f185.google.com ([209.85.216.185]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mqyfc-0006t2-Si for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:28:24 -0700 Received: by pxi15 with SMTP id 15so2342008pxi.25 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:28:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=d6h9FJtEEHvtJ+ivc5YOziUIzufR+q7dxWLvcEHDP1o=; b=DIh35yr4lwsOuuZnh5hk7wTjE2BjhOtBQRNiPbkrrGWzHzIPCPT/wFBo+glV9sZizu cFv8NB//EKr3W74l04tWFgbcoyXpkIo1eEBqbaHqcQGx+A+damXyYGNNVtY/1/J+5KCU XhzRwkacoHLX8vK0/sggTL0BzRSq0nYLp2LI4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nknYSkeiXa1Bpn62naJ+Id09/jIkN+xP9ogNbsILOxouwj3187+FFIbwSLD0CxS+0f AaoJasF5qZPw9Wjjrm9qW4lr1riYOpAs37P8NLrrWBo7SYi34p/d5bEFb+oW0iJ/S3Oj lDR8uZYuUeTGITKoXYEGKo7PjzS8pkp2QZXVo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.61.37 with SMTP id j37mr296283wfa.35.1253838494915; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:28:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:28:14 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: How many possible gismu? From: Arran To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0aef2185df304745c062a X-archive-position: 16248 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arran4@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --001636e0aef2185df304745c062a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 IMHO valsi referring to other cultures, geography, ect should be fu'ivla with rafsi. (If there can be such a thing.) What disappoints me is the lack of taxonomy for plants and animals is the gismu.. (Warning, offtopic, idiosyntratic, potentially not ver well thought out part) I have seriously wondered if there should be junk gismu/rafsi which only have meaning in combination with other words, ie for xruba, (not a good example, but I have some of this growing in my garden) you (can) have xunre stani xruba, but wouldn't it be interesting to have hrexub where hre is a some fictional rasfi which is almost predicate in meaning. On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:51 AM, wrote: > In a message dated 9/24/2009 10:32:10 Eastern Daylight Time, > mturniansky@gmail.com writes: > > > I noticed that no one else mentioned another distinguishing feature of > gismu -- the way they are derived (from a weighted survey of the 6 source > natlangs). > > --gejyspa > > > > > That's how *most *were derived. The remaining gismu fall into several > categories: uniquely Lojban concepts (e.g., "gismu"), metric prefixes > ("decti", "kilto"), basic metric and math units ("xampo", "tanjo"), the six > Lojban source languages ("jungo", "glico"), some other languages and > geographical or cultural gismu ("bengo", "merko"), and the religion gismu. > (CLL, 4.15) > > mu'o mi'e stevon > --001636e0aef2185df304745c062a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable IMHO valsi referring to other cultures, geography, ect should be fu'ivl= a with rafsi. (If there can be such a thing.) What disappoints me is the la= ck of taxonomy for plants and animals is the gismu..

(Warning, offto= pic, idiosyntratic, potentially not ver well thought out part) I have serio= usly wondered if there should be junk gismu/rafsi which only have meaning i= n combination with other words, ie for xruba, (not a good example, but I ha= ve some of this growing in my garden) you (can) have xunre stani xruba, but= wouldn't it be interesting to have hrexub where hre is a some fictiona= l rasfi which is almost predicate in meaning.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:51 AM, <MorphemeAddict= @wmconnect.com> wrote:
In a mess= age dated 9/24/2009 10:32:10 Eastern Daylight Time, mturniansky@gmail.com writes:


I noticed that = no one else mentioned another distinguishing feature of gismu -- the way th= ey are derived (from a weighted survey of the 6 source natlangs).

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0--gejyspa



That's how most were derived. =A0The remaining gismu fall in= to several categories: uniquely Lojban concepts (e.g., "gismu"), = metric prefixes ("decti", "kilto"), basic metric and ma= th units ("xampo", "tanjo"), the six Lojban source lang= uages ("jungo", "glico"), some other languages and geog= raphical or cultural gismu ("bengo", "merko"), and the = religion gismu. (CLL, 4.15)

mu'o mi'e stevon

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