From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Sep 24 18:04:20 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MqzER-0001do-Ur for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:04:20 -0700 Received: from ol.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.20] helo=sdf.lonestar.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MqzEO-0001dL-Vn for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:04:19 -0700 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@iceland.freeshell.org [192.94.73.5]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8P14CCe001902 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:04:12 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.12.8/Submit) id n8P14BE6023002 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:04:12 GMT Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:04:11 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: How many possible gismu? Message-ID: <20090925010410.GA8653@sdf.lonestar.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-archive-position: 16249 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list de'i li 25 pi'e 09 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Arran .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > (Warning, offtopic, idiosyntratic, potentially not ver well thought out > part) I have seriously wondered if there should be junk gismu/rafsi which > only have meaning in combination with other words, ie for xruba, (not a good > example, but I have some of this growing in my garden) you (can) have xunre > stani xruba, but wouldn't it be interesting to have hrexub where hre is a > some fictional rasfi which is almost predicate in meaning. .skamyxatra If you mean {gismu} & {rafsi} which could theoretically be used alone but are virtually only ever used in {tanru} or {lujvo}, there are already some like that; there are the numeric/metric prefixes like "{megdo}" & "{zetro}," color {gismu} as used by speakers beyond beginner level, "{simxu}," and probably a bunch of others that I can't think of right now. If, however, you mean {gismu}/{rafsi} whose meanings are "context sensitive" and determined entirely by (and change in accordance with) the enclosing {tanru}/{lujvo} and cannot be used alone, that's just crazy talk. mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. -- lonu ca rere'u finti le xislu cu ba sidju do lonu baza finti le vi'e xislu To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.