From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Sep 29 07:54:24 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mse5v-0001Sy-8C for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:54:23 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.244]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mse5s-0001Sg-7v for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:54:23 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d40so6108946and.1 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:54:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+3vr2i4wNBVjmeTRhF9bwNXOGrf7SlNSOcN7at/DmzQ=; b=TaXyXwmE6JQ0uEzDahNvnXzh96y0e37YaasjfehMl/uheKYI5nz9bo+cA/0so9BA2o ixuK7XnLuVcL8roRnaPZwN1L0xfWnxYposL/6Pzm5w1rPeBksXEN+Y86iPQZ9pH+5nBd RyFQ4UE/YqVTlAdJ3NufhQv1W0OuWWwWB0WF0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tx8gqRq5GtjJubJmMpC0cELjA2ofbthXz7fKkIrE3UY5mGTIU8CsME4Q1bWKaw6OQd UQnozNAuB60jFu6pivjgEejjUWaiB5OBfe++PDcxOVbwb2GSNvQo++kaIKjs+6vbeVAW Gn+XXwn4313AqRlDUGEEYsHJEDleV+SMV1Fcs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.102.12 with SMTP id e12mr4631122anm.144.1254236058924; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:54:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <27513e550909282053x49e07c1cg7198b092799da748@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560909290545w59f67bbbpd0fa6c4de6e29d4c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:54:17 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560909290754p18e133fbo5d3cb7049e05328f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Translating "even" From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 16265 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Ivo Doko wrote: > > Actually, I find "she wasn't even awake" to mean that for her to be > something (whatever it is that's revealed she was not in the previous > sentence), one of the most important prerequisites is for her to be > awake. Right. > That has nothing to do with "awake" being any kind of extreme > case, although it may tangentially imply that there are other less > important prerequisites for her to be that something, besides being > awake. "one of the most important prerequisites" means an extreme prerequisite. Being awake is an extreme in the list of prerequisites. Other prerequisites may be less extreme. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.