From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Sep 29 13:20:03 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MsjB5-0005dq-64 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:20:03 -0700 Received: from mail-gx0-f210.google.com ([209.85.217.210]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MsjB1-0005bL-LG for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:20:02 -0700 Received: by gxk2 with SMTP id 2so3806234gxk.4 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:19:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JjVlaaBj4higB7wxwvuBXRSQOFWJX7i3YlkMzGnT8Q4=; b=RAp30FBAXEROcEVn2xIpdXllch6+BvL7PUKbMnye+190E0VU4Qb2eYxWtUcIE1pbke OKEqkFToGKlkluelbgyzWaRFZgMEUtVVxZlGr5h8wxvheHP6vq41U9cV+fGHj9XYF6pV jo+b34S7nqjwN6WUSObPnUftLSnpIAlJfKFOU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=O4U/9s7BPULioBzNnQRbuWUnS+64v+dPedeEEcMMrNDms/025eTpU0FtbpeIpAMZmI Ia1Hqr37sHjP6ioY+sjapojThYyzHkuOfbSjsdJdizuEFljAvEZ7NzfGg8jcR3sdo8ZH IGk/9ZL44928BagKs/cNr5To74rLr3ZFZU91Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.74.11 with SMTP id b11mr3899520agl.39.1254255593449; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:19:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <27513e550909282053x49e07c1cg7198b092799da748@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560909290545w59f67bbbpd0fa6c4de6e29d4c@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560909290754p18e133fbo5d3cb7049e05328f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:19:53 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560909291319l47686682xec3336c60a4c6c90@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Translating "even" From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 16269 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Ivo Doko wrote: > "One of the most important prerequisites" means exactly that - *one > of* the most important prerequisites. An extreme prerequisite is *the* > most important prerequisite. If "one of the most important" equals > "extreme" that means that there are multiple extremes in one > direction, which is not the case. "Even" only indicates an extreme case, not necessarily the most extreme of all. You can say "Even John likes this cake. Why, it's so good, even Jane likes it." This requires John to be an extreme case, but Jane to be an even more extreme case. Similarly: "She was not concerned. She was not even awake. As a matter of fact, she was not even alive." So it is usually possible to add even more extreme cases. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.