From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Sep 29 13:51:17 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MsjfI-0008MM-Pt for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:51:16 -0700 Received: from mail-fx0-f225.google.com ([209.85.220.225]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MsjfF-0008M5-T8 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:51:16 -0700 Received: by fxm25 with SMTP id 25so3348993fxm.0 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:51:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sYj9gvsQOxnGqeVxUXtnlLUU+JZ7WF86zNF1WK9UXY0=; b=pJS5adOBrQXU4gAhv09qFm6w6dtMWkturk8DgQjI84SoCighV47jaMny7N41wbirOE sCF7Sc7uAmGCrhM6YmJJB6nD/YH3f59VP5M5CHuNzp1D2E7Z7T1NM1PmvwX62RRTnaM5 MijhsApGWhpkl3emld/y2Z08HcR4D8OCMCSwU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uSfooPbrr872a/qoqLp7BzINjXZpezjNNmErePFymg/LEqI+NKEk0955QX1gsFcpGs CNgy+DLR19kBsNFQTvhGugju18sBO3WI+F6f85eZ10YAOJ1gm5NklVc0uQuJDW95fTQm eKvWa2Sd/0TV3TxZJq6zw84QK0Wp2k5gvoLNc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.17.144 with SMTP id s16mr1438721faa.41.1254257467401; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:51:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <925d17560909291319l47686682xec3336c60a4c6c90@mail.gmail.com> References: <27513e550909282053x49e07c1cg7198b092799da748@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560909290545w59f67bbbpd0fa6c4de6e29d4c@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560909290754p18e133fbo5d3cb7049e05328f@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560909291319l47686682xec3336c60a4c6c90@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:51:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: Translating "even" From: Ivo Doko To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 16270 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ivo.doko@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list 2009/9/29 Jorge Llambías : > "Even" only indicates an extreme case, not necessarily the most > extreme of all. You can say "Even John likes this cake. Why, it's so > good, even Jane likes it." This requires John to be an extreme case, > but Jane to be an even more extreme case. > > Similarly: "She was not concerned. She was not even awake. As a matter > of fact, she was not even alive." So it is usually possible to add > even more extreme cases. How can there be extreme and "more" extreme? It's either extreme or not extreme. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.