From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Oct 17 11:25:17 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MzDxt-0002Ju-B2 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:25:17 -0700 Received: from web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.199.123]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MzDxl-0002Hw-90 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:25:16 -0700 Received: (qmail 55597 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Oct 2009 18:25:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=c8aQ1z30666+DV2brX/5lj57eT1Lwx3VWzXOw9GQ5ftUTd43SMCA7WHxBasUYz7nJS1n4zjjfdTLUxMzAsJ/fbCOBBn8ZEoeqgLa1blgsQ++PfAJCX7LMTf2tCRWGuZxNQn0PDIyU/iF+0t40CknXkqEIKycaQ6ECDCHPaZ0pqg=; Message-ID: <622745.49080.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: cSNkdjQVM1nQM88eAFuRHmN6e2ZCKOIBmTu0j067GWFD5DHfaNnl4yek9mQik5kGpEO32GQ7lpe13ShmsM_GH46phVjbwlCm_4gfzfGiwQUjm0FxIfJr474ba1KSx2NFwEvdhcz71WJ30iy1.jsRYR_YZZJsUT.OKcLZhlGzZKnzbZLHOrguii0jj6FZEySLcU_lVx20lqIH2AcsNSCmN1bhC5y2YbZQrEZ_v_LqF0kGM.50MHf5GJoDy3v0Ta0UKhY.wv9zF6K1OUSXCPfu7aocKdG_1OjXVTfLP5f_aVLcVdUgR5SOK5Gmjr.9vpHB0KJp.KTG6Lv.B1wuc7xA4r6NsVj3JBU9R_Q0RqC1ciVW7AElioa_tiBkmXlV.QuyfrXZJHshMSYX2KhgV4xG_ihKB8LX2BYFggFhtVH0uOetcaQ6w.GrIpk- Received: from [71.81.138.77] by web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:25:01 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/182.10 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 References: <23298cb40910170851v40798f71h27164a8852f73388@mail.gmail.com> <8CC1D64370116C7-6E5C-1256E@webmail-m043.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:25:01 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Subject: [lojban] Re: Alternate writing systems? To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <8CC1D64370116C7-6E5C-1256E@webmail-m043.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1655361299-1255803901=:49080" X-archive-position: 16348 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --0-1655361299-1255803901=:49080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii One of the real (but incompletely realized) advantages of the Latin alphabet over many a priori constructions is the marked difference of the forms of letters and hence of words. To be sure, this is far from completely true but beats out a considerable number of other alphabetic (or syllabic) systems, If we must make a new face for Lb (which we must not, by the way), lets start with what is already a way along the line.And, for the first time in Lojban, build in some redundancies. ________________________________ From: Seth To: lojban-list@lojban.org Sent: Sat, October 17, 2009 12:13:00 PM Subject: [lojban] Re: Alternate writing systems? for practicality (ease of learning, ease of computer use), i think lojban should retain the roman alphabet, but i think that having its own orthography would be awesome. The several ones proposed have been impressive, but i like things even more computer/barcode-ish looking, since i think lojban could be the language of androids. something like this maybe http://www.omniglot.com/writing/12480.htm -----Original Message----- From: Remo Dentato To: lojban-list@lojban.org Sent: Sat, Oct 17, 2009 9:51 am Subject: [lojban] Re: Alternate writing systems? On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 5:42 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 10/17/2009 07:37:39 Eastern Daylight Time, > carbon.evolve@gmail.com writes: >> >> The Elian script does look good, I wonder if there is any talk about >> standardizing a lojban orthography. >> > > I don't like the Elian script, and lojban orthography is already > standardized. I do like the Elian script but the lojban orthgraphy is already standardized and there are so few people learning the language that asking them to use a non-familiar seems not a good move to me. That said, the best way to promote Elian script would be to typeset a piece of lojban and send around for comments. I guess nothing will change, but I love calligraphy! :) remod To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. --0-1655361299-1255803901=:49080 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
One of the real (but incompletely realized) advantages of the Latin alphabet over many a priori constructions is the marked difference of the forms of letters and hence of words.  To be sure, this is far from completely true but beats out a considerable number of other alphabetic (or syllabic) systems,  If we must make a new face for Lb (which we must not, by the way), lets start with what is already a way along the line.And, for the first time in Lojban, build in some redundancies.

From: Seth <thirderivative@aol.com>
To: lojban-list@lojban.org
Sent: Sat, October 17, 2009 12:13:00 PM
Subject: [lojban] Re: Alternate writing systems?

for practicality (ease of learning, ease of computer use), i think lojban should retain the roman alphabet, but i think that having its own orthography would be awesome. The several ones proposed have been impressive, but i like things even more computer/barcode-ish looking, since i think lojban could be the language of androids. something like this maybe http://www.omniglot.com/writing/12480.htm



-----Original Message-----

From: Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com>

To: lojban-list@lojban.org

Sent: Sat, Oct 17, 2009 9:51 am

Subject: [lojban] Re: Alternate writing systems?


On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 5:42 PM,  <MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com> wrote:


> In a message dated 10/17/2009 07:37:39 Eastern Daylight Time,


> carbon.evolve@gmail.com writes:


>>


>> The Elian script does look good, I wonder if there is any talk about


>> standardizing a lojban orthography.


>>


>


> I don't like the Elian script, and lojban orthography is already


> standardized.





I do like the Elian script but the lojban orthgraphy is already


standardized and there are so few people learning the language that


asking them to use a non-familiar seems not a good move to me.





That said, the best way to promote Elian script would be to typeset a


piece of lojban and send around for comments. I guess nothing will


change, but I love calligraphy! :)





remod








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