From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Dec 03 13:07:18 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:08:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGItR-00027B-H0 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:07:18 -0800 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.186]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGIru-0001Zv-0R for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:05:54 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (82-71-48-121.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.71.48.121]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MSmoL-1Ni7IG3hO1-00RhoR; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:05:34 +0100 Message-ID: <4B182820.4020407@lojban.org.uk> Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:05:36 +0000 From: kozmikreis Organization: LLG, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: subliminal learning lojban? References: <5715b9300912030842s1798ba63pd668de8a4452df97@mail.gmail.com> <20091203192136.GA5893@sdf.lonestar.org> <5715b9300912031234s5af2c896k2f7459d7d25c0a0a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5715b9300912031234s5af2c896k2f7459d7d25c0a0a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/Dr9jyLD03SPn4oo6uU8wpFe7g1/DQ/4NG5uD OeX5XsFOhdOxPsN8efdLQ6GD/iHmElmTLhPiMhyGPMeKEXW0OQ pN8YAV200fprMz9chWM4A== X-archive-position: 16559 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Definitely snake oil - there are similar ad listings on eBay; I sent a message to each seller asking for a contact number so I could call and hear for myself just how good their Lojban was before I'd consider placing an order. Funnily enough I received no reply :-) Paul (kozmikreis) Luke Bergen wrote: > I was kind of wondering if that was the case. > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Minimiscience > wrote: > > de'i li 03 pi'e 12 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Luke Bergen .fy. cusku zoi > skamyxatra. > > I found this just now: http://www.suburbandestiny.com/?p=588 in > which the > > blogger mentions "subliminal learning lojban" here: > > ... > > What is this thing? Is this in any way associated with LLG or > anything > > official? > .skamyxatra > > This is what is known as a "scam." If you click the "Brainwave > Mind Voyages" > link, you'll see that the sellers appear to have grabbed a bunch > of random > subjects and slapped them onto FSM only knows what, combined with > utter abuse > of New Age-sounding scientific vocabulary to rope in their key > demographic: > idiots. Buying this just to see what it is (and I will bet you > 10,000 to 1 > that it doesn't work) will not be worth your while. > > Also, some advice for the next couple of decades: If it has the > word "quantum" > in it and it is not a physics textbook or course from a > respectable university, > keep it away from your money. > > mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. > > -- > do ta'e pilno le va valsi .i mi na jinvi lodu'u ri valsi da poi do > jinvi lodu'u > ri valsi ke'a > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to > http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org > for help. > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.