From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Dec 03 19:11:36 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:11:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGOa0-00069E-88 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:11:36 -0800 Received: from mail-yw0-f187.google.com ([209.85.211.187]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGOZm-0005j0-9v for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:11:27 -0800 Received: by ywh17 with SMTP id 17so2165083ywh.2 for ; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:11:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=H6Thf7ONeLy4/80gQrAcsPVY1Nw4Kb+z9K2wC95P+L8=; b=v/4PmzW4ItU0pOwas47NErnZeCG+dDq2Wj1jQuIfaviyJXX6SlNaR3UM8IbXsqkcMQ TSrmRTcv5o9fOwmeNX5qgnZC4TnpmpIl82qFZap4sO838khSfj71h3C0GNNdC+A6Hzed gw+kTXQedb5J2bGwCJr2Np9USt0l5dKMi9NP0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=P+A9lfLYeLWITQVu/ARGfIxrYcjFYPdoW1UF3GQpcUDsO9ZJbOM21JAreTrisTBA5B WfpKSFoJ7k65S3ct87MiFBJZb9YqdrNcrZAZuiEjPsvz1KT5YWNwBI9QXWmOOJ328LbU 6PgnRmBiiobmtxDHgjo2sLPyulk41G7dSvhSo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.115.8 with SMTP id n8mr4410541ybc.64.1259896275522; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:11:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <702226df0912031850k5776dde1ta6fda8ff2b67cbac@mail.gmail.com> References: <702226df0912031545r6cd4c3b3q49f773eb306ad17d@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912031552q7f7fb0a1y5f8b8b9f05049b7d@mail.gmail.com> <27513e550912031607o6a8cf91gf4bbc7c400ad74e7@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912031642i3510e69ay72598b91d26397e4@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912031850k5776dde1ta6fda8ff2b67cbac@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 22:11:15 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: Smart.fm and Lojban From: Matt Arnold To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-archive-position: 16581 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list My offer is that if you will send me the first few gismu that you will add, I'll record those. Then if you tell me the next set that you want, I'll record those. I don't have time to record all the gismu, or decide for you which ones to start with. -Matt On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrote: > Um, it's the gismu list. Just say the gismu. possibly with lo and > se,te,ve,xe in front. The lesson page shows examples. > > Using my previous example, the script for "klama" would be: > klama > lo klama > lo se klama > lo te klama > lo ve klama > lo xe klama > > And so on with the other gismu, excluding the te, ve and xe for the gismu > that don't have those places. > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Matt Arnold wrote: >> >> Send me a script to read, and I'll make some recordings for you. -Eppcott >> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones >> wrote: >> > So, you vote all-inclusive, then? >> > >> > And as for the audio, dict.cc wouldn't be of any help, due to the simple >> > fact that it doesn't have lojban. If anyone does already have audio of >> > the >> > 1200 or so gismu, THAT would help. >> > >> > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Oren wrote: >> >> >> >> I haven't taken a hard look at the options available for smart.fm, but >> >> I'd >> >> say from my personal study, I prefer the concept on one side, all the >> >> information about it on the other side, and then an example of usage on >> >> a >> >> third side if possible. >> >> >> >> As for collaborative audio, another platform that could be used (once >> >> they >> >> add lojban, of course) is dict.cc, which already streamlines >> >> user-driven >> >> online mp3 recording and verification. Dict.cc databases are always >> >> available for download. >> >> >> >> mu'o mi'e ku'us >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 07:52, Jon "Top Hat" Jones >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Addendum: I've added the alphabetically first gismu, bacru, to the >> >>> lesson >> >>> to provide an example of what the entries would look like. >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones >> >>> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> I've decided to add the gismu as a lesson on Smart.fm, and I wanted >> >>>> to >> >>>> discuss this with rodo. >> >>>> >> >>>> First, I'd like to invite anyone interested in helping to complete >> >>>> the >> >>>> lesson to do so. I'm not certain how collaboration works, but I do >> >>>> know it's >> >>>> possible. >> >>>> >> >>>> Second, I have a question as to formatting for the individual items, >> >>>> that being, which entry method would be better for learners? >> >>>> >> >>>> 1) All-inclusive, i.e.: >> >>>> >> >>>> Item: >> >>>> text: klama >> >>>> translation: x1 travels to x2 from x3 via route x4 by means of x5 >> >>>> >> >>>> 2) Individual, i.e.: >> >>>> >> >>>> Item: >> >>>> text: lo klama >> >>>> translation: A traveller >> >>>> >> >>>> Item: >> >>>> text: lo se klama >> >>>> translation: A traveller's origin >> >>>> >> >>>> Item: >> >>>> text: lo te klama >> >>>> translation: A traveller's destination >> >>>> >> >>>> Item: >> >>>> text: lo ve klama >> >>>> translation: A route travelled >> >>>> >> >>>> Item: >> >>>> text: lo xe klama >> >>>> translation: A method of travelling >> >>>> >> >>>> 3) Both 1 and 2. >> >>>> >> >>>> Lastly, seeing as Smart.fm's English text-to-speech will incorrectly >> >>>> pronounce Lojban words, and assuming that no language pronounces >> >>>> things >> >>>> exactly as Lojban does, audio needs to be recorded for each entry so >> >>>> that >> >>>> learners hear the words as they are meant to be heard. So, should >> >>>> each >> >>>> contributor record the audio for the entries s/he contributes, or >> >>>> should one >> >>>> person be selected to do all the audio? >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >>>> >> >>>> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >>> >> >>> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> > >> > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >> > >> > >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org >> with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if >> you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.