From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Dec 18 12:13:25 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:13:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NLjCW-0004Du-6W for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:13:24 -0800 Received: from mail-yx0-f202.google.com ([209.85.210.202]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NLjB6-0003dS-Eh for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:12:00 -0800 Received: by yxe40 with SMTP id 40so3455883yxe.28 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:11:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CaoQ0HfPxYmS8RDhskFNjtiJ23wigWrEvx1+ITax5q0=; b=cRwLP2MkVlfMdOHrmaD/BEL1syCY0dphtAIq8OvidXzlT9c0+AwXSHEvbUZnZqdTl/ MTzoq0WPmMtXes6noatLiaNq2W6r9mgpecAxSKoMPrOmuf2l+5G7RZVztTILnX39382Y CJHhAXOjqLCENqf1KJClRVvQDrpFize8t2yP8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JiL0YVjVds5Lk7PamTrl+gMsQ2AFRBEDIFW3A6Dh3arjewUwwbk+LCN5PtKx1TXkp/ K5Kio2yYHeryJMbSiPL6Aneq0e8ElnMJSWsPTVS6fYtFZ0IxDnhB/jjJ0YK4eYCWveQZ 5cF3AuPM2m+ranRPQ2gq75NyRLggW4U/14uAk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.160.34 with SMTP id m34mr4718946ago.68.1261167109853; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:11:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8a20e9f70912181024t29e56190u762c85c8373e0c6a@mail.gmail.com> References: <8a20e9f70912181024t29e56190u762c85c8373e0c6a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:11:49 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560912181211o485199adj246be26f7ce5e368@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: The New Method From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 16700 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Jameson Orndorff wrote: > There is a Google Wave > that is being compiled of our work, The content looks good, but I'm finding the navigation of the wave to be a pain. The behavior of the up and down arrows especially, which constantly make me lose the place I'm at. Maybe I'm missing something, but I wish the arrows could be used to move one line at a time rather than jumping from blip to blip. > Simple tanru, using as diverse of a vocabulary as we can muster. We teach > with great emphasis that ANY time two selbri are adjacent in text, they form > a tanru. Minor issue here: Your use of "selbri" is slightly non-standard. In general, you cannot put two selbri together to form a new selbri, because the selbri tag is considered a part of the selbri, so for example "ca klama" is a selbri, "na djuno" is a selbri. Unfortunately, there isn't any standard name for the tag-less part of the selbri. I guess it could be called "tag-less selbri", but that only works once you have introduced tags. > {be ... bei ... be'o} - Again, making the case that the terminator is > necessary. Strong examples help here. The problem of teaching this structure before elision is that it is then hard to justify. "be" is only needed because we want to elide "ku" most of the time. If "ku" were not elidable, there would be no point in having the be-bei-be'o structure. I think logically elision needs to be taught before "be". mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.