From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Dec 19 10:21:30 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:21:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NM3vm-00061d-0O for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:21:30 -0800 Received: from mail-fx0-f225.google.com ([209.85.220.225]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NM3uh-0005RJ-2G for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:20:26 -0800 Received: by fxm25 with SMTP id 25so3168410fxm.26 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:20:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=r2ld75MWkL37SPkLkoPj1EKCfbdzpJX2aDvwF3ksEds=; b=LBJ0VFlejBrXlTmYcqceKVJSpoUMVtW7ELWesKBICp3qvwuE1rrwb+E8uX7wMGMcgx r8fgVJS/cLH1r92TevNm/QNx3ZU2d83ZUTsjxYUk0dD4Ko6meIpIOzhWvGQrscoi1vGp QcShwCvtUcSMFa0AjAHfFiNt2zJELauqqalcE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KSJtyH6ILeJc03KSRJKRIiVYRuF3sl27V5cVUCz7fsPm8Z4fx680o/eZCP23PYNqLf qIR0/cs0C3dZ0ObeWSkU/a4IlPCQ/Rhx6NB7mlIqTz9cOrxhZiKmuSd8KHR6FLYA9h2f e3YBCuTEH7A/THiaFkoHn6EWhNFBw9YXI0q/w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.127.7 with SMTP id e7mr477069mun.2.1261246814365; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:20:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <8a20e9f70912181024t29e56190u762c85c8373e0c6a@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560912181211o485199adj246be26f7ce5e368@mail.gmail.com> <8a20e9f70912181227j40b5b65didcef9b757ce87df0@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560912181357y2ba48da3rf9190d51c3ed9690@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560912181518i133ea386s336a99cbc23fbf6a@mail.gmail.com> <8a20e9f70912181616q662f6f1fv106a73480a82fb4c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:20:14 -0500 Message-ID: <8a20e9f70912191020m446da721n6cf6676b826ad4b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: The New Method From: Jameson Orndorff To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 16720 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jtorndorff@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list >> Thanks everyone for your feedback on the structure! Anyone have any >> comments about the layout idea I had for the website? > > Sorry, can you point me to that? -Eppcott Woops! Should have made that more clear. I was just referring to the last paragraph of my original email wherein I offer up an idea for the structure of the lessons. This lesson plan was something I had intended to move beyond the Wave, but I lack the web design skill likely necessary to implement such a thing. When I teach, I crave the interactivity and automatic feedback. Designing a lesson structure with dynamic collapsing and expanding of information as you progress is just one way I might be able to capture some of that dynamic. Really strong examples and test questions have helped quite a bit in cementing ideas. I've been mentally compiling a list of commonly asked questions as I teach each subject. Likewise, I've been compiling a list of commonly made mistakes... {se broda be fa ko'a} seems to crop up no matter how artfully I try to dodge it, for example. I think donri has been spearheading a project wherein he gives stronger definitions of gismu in both summary and expanded form. A lot of them can be very deceptive when read from gismu lists on what fills what places - I think a mouse-over interface that gives a better detail of the definition, and a few examples of what can fill each place successfully would go a long way in teaching place structure properly. Later today I might post a fake-up of what I'd like to see some of these things looking like. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.