From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Dec 28 15:24:59 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:24:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NPOxP-0008R2-7O for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:24:59 -0800 Received: from ol.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.20] helo=sdf.lonestar.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NPOx0-0007rf-8q for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:24:39 -0800 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@sverige.freeshell.org [192.94.73.4]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBSNOWew025779 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:24:32 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.12.8/Submit) id nBSNOVA2018203 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:24:31 GMT Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:24:31 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: lo te cacra Message-ID: <20091228232429.GA11894@sdf.lonestar.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <702226df0912281343u74ba2a7dl73daef95d368cf0e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <702226df0912281343u74ba2a7dl73daef95d368cf0e@mail.gmail.com> Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-archive-position: 16750 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list de'i li 29 pi'e 12 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Jon Top Hat Jones .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > cacra is defined in the gismu list as "x1 is x2 hours in duration (default > is 1 hour) by standard x3" > > jboski translates lo te cacra as "standard for hour". > > This is confusing to me. What standard is being referred to, exactly? .skamyxatra {lo te cacra} is the definition of "hour" that the speaker is using. See for the various ways that it has been defined throughout history. Theoretically, {lo te cacra} could possibly also include information related to relativity & time dilation, but that would probably be better expressed with "{ma'i}." mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. -- lu nibli lo jitfa va'o lonu lu'e vo'a lidne vo'a li'u nibli lo jitfa va'o lonu lu'e vo'a lidne vo'a To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.